turkish men....

[zuberdust]

so quite a lot of turks living not to far from my bit and i often see them in the city center, they are always always sitting at cafes or in the town centere on benches in groups,............. i never see any women with them, just guys.... weird. is this quite common? do you see this in turkey much? is it just the way they socialise? i dont know cos i never bee...., guys hang out together all day while women prob look after the house?.... im sure they very hard working back home but some these guys bug me, ill be on my way to work and they are just lounging about lol...its like, dont you guys have jobs to go too hhhehe

 

[Akasya]

Yes to everything except the jobs bit.
Steve.

 

[luckycat68]

Alot of the older generation sit all day long in the cafes - Cay and Kahve is served - no alcohol
you must remember that the sons of these men are expected to look after them in their old age - so the younger generation will be working hard to support their parents- not like UK !!
Believe me not all Turkish men are lazy - my hubby works from 7 am until when ever we close the restaurant - which is normally around 2 am or can be much later in the busy months of July and August
As the season is only 6 months long we have to work very hard to provide enough money to live on during the winter months as there are not many jobs available then.
The women will be at home - cooking - cleaning etc and waiting for their spouses to return - NOT me though - I am not a "" Turkish wifey " LOL :122ia:

 

[yalimart]

Hi Z
There are also a lot of younger men in their late 40s (prob old to you) who are able to collect their pensions at about age 47 due to the pension scheme they signed up for as school leavers, somebody please correct me on this. i have a friend who collects his pension at 47.
what else would you do with your time ?

martin

 

[peter the postie]

I remember a Turkish friend being shocked when I told him I'd still be working when I turned 50!

 

[mintyk]

How odd I have just had this conversation with my other half. He is ealry 40's and does go to the kahve. He finds work here, word of mouth. I was asking about their pension system, seems you have to have paid all your insurance in to get the pension. So if they did start at 18 then they would have enough in to retire what ever age. He was quite suprised when I said in UK it was 65 for a man to retire.

Zuber,,,, it's not just the kahve where no woman go, there are the beer houses and wine houses too,,, some men have all the luck,,,

 

[zuberdust]

ah i see so its good to know that other people see it too and its maybe a 'cultural' thing... very nice... yeh i can understand retired men who will socialise with thier friends in groups, but what i see is guys not much older than myself lol... but cool! x x x

 

[geordie_nev]

It used to be the case that you had to work 20 years to get your pension, It might well have changed now?? My cousin was entitled to retire at 37 as she started work when she was 17, although she went on to work on until the ripe old age of 42.

Like mintyk, my relies in Istanbul were shocked when I told them you had to work until 65. They would often make jokes about it and say things like “but when do you have time to spend with your family?”

Mind you the economy has grown at such a rate in Istanbul they have to work so hard just to keep up, most of my family that are working age work 7 days a week. My cousin’s daughter (an architect) told me recently that she occasional gets the Sunday off once a month or so. The hours are long too, she never finishes work before 8 at night.

 

[Martyn]

I think they have it right. Retirement should be 55 in the uk, it would create more jobs and us olduns would love it. Now they have changed retirement for women, my wife will retire 5 years after me whereas the old system we would have retired at around the same time.

 

[zuberdust]

I think they have it right. Retirement should be 55 in the uk, it would create more jobs and us olduns would love it. Now they have changed retirement for women, my wife will retire 5 years after me whereas the old system we would have retired at around the same time.

i know a 60 yr old doctor who dont wanna retire, he now just works part time.... he said he wud be too bored if he just retires

 

[Martyn]

I agree it wouldn't be mandatory but there is a hell of a lot of people that would retire. Instead they are trying to raise the retirement age to 70. I think that average life span is around 72 so you would virtually spend your whole life working.

 

[geordie_nev]

i know a 60 yr old doctor who dont wanna retire, he now just works part time.... he said he wud be too bored if he just retires

My son is seeing a Doctor who is 82 years old.

 

[fethiyebug]

when you say seeing do you mean dating??

 

[geordie_nev]

when you say seeing do you mean dating??

Lol – bit of an age gap – sorry meant regular consultations, although the prices he charges we can’t afford them to be too regular.

 

[fethiyebug]

ok (phew) :46:knew some men liked older women but thought that was maybe going a bit far! but then again lillian my grannies mate at her nursing home aint that bad for 95 she makes quite an effort and is very active for her age,as in getting about that is

 

[KKOB]

Hi Z
There are also a lot of younger men in their late 40s (prob old to you) who are able to collect their pensions at about age 47 due to the pension scheme they signed up for as school leavers, somebody please correct me on this. i have a friend who collects his pension at 47.
what else would you do with your time ?

martin

In theory, the lowest age at which a man can retire in Turkey, is 39.

 

[nanamo]

So thats another thing we got wrong in the UK then, retirement age, add it to the list. Molly x

 

[zuberdust]

this went soo off topic! hehehe

 

[Pete&Mag]

Well Z. You probably wont appreciate this yet,but....It could be that these guys have all been married a long time and have enough sense to keep out of the house. In the UK we have allotments,and bowling clubs...... Similar sort of theory !! Pete

 

[jakkigers]

I couldn't believe it when they told me about the retirement age in Turkey! I'm a civil servant (almost 27 years service so far) and can retire at 60. Having been born and brought up to believe that I would get the old age pension at the same age, I was gutted a few years ago when they changed the rules and I'll now only get it when I'm 65. Mind you, it could be worse as my daughter is 28 and she won't get her old age pension until she's 68 under the current rules and she's convinced it will be even later than that as time goes by.

It's worse 'cos my other half is retired - he got early retirement at very lucrative rates when the Prison Service wanted to save money by getting rid of their more senior managers with experience. If I could retire early, I would so that we could spend more of our free time at our house in Gumbet - until then I'll keep hoping for that lottery win!!