Camden

Member
The EU going forward
Of course its blackmail but dare the EU implement withholding Covid recovery funding?
I'm sure I read/heard that one of the issues that the EU are not happy about is, Polish Judges having their immunity removed. since when do Judges have immunity?

Just like UK judges. Judges are subject to the law in the same way as any other citizen, but Judges are given immunity from prosecution when carrying out acts in performance of their judicial function, they also benefit from immunity from being sued for defamation.
 

Akasya

Postless Pointer
The EU going forward
Of course , contravening a law is tantamount to a blackmail punishment ,, do as the law demands or PAY. a penalty .
Steve
 

Camden

Member
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Are Brexiteers not just happy with us leaving the EU or is it ideological ??? wanting to see the EU project fail to justify Brexit ? As they seem to revel in one of our biggest customers system having problems in being challenged .... which I suppose is in keeping with their Kamikaze attitude in making yourself poorer ...
 
The EU going forward
Are Brexiteers not just happy with us leaving the EU or is it ideological ??? wanting to see the EU project fail to justify Brexit ? As they seem to revel in one of our biggest customers system having problems in being challenged .... which I suppose is in keeping with their Kamikaze attitude in making yourself poorer ...
Can’t speak for others but I never voted for the EU to fail, just for us to leave.
 

Chasey

Member
The EU going forward
Furlough.


No not really

If the govt needs money they can just print it. There's no gold standard any more so we do not need gold reserves to prop up the pound

The problem with this sort of quantitative easing is it's inflationary and would normally result in the collapse of the value in the Pound

However if ALL countries are simply printing money, then you can get away with it.

We were bankrupted by Brexit back when Corona was just a piss week beer.

There was no money (in real terms) before Brexit and after wasting an estimated £130 billion pounds year to date January 2020 due to Brexit, we sure as hell had no money after it.
 

Chasey

Member
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Can’t speak for others but I never voted for the EU to fail, just for us to leave.


Good because the last time the EU failed, it ended up in WW2

It was Germany who left at that time resulting in the then League of Nations collapsing.

Ironically one of the protagonists was Poland at the time.
 
The EU going forward
Good because the last time the EU failed, it ended up in WW2

It was Germany who left at that time resulting in the then League of Nations collapsing.

Ironically one of the protagonists was Poland at the time.
The talk of Poland leaving the EU is no more than a ploy for Tusk to become PM there. Has the Polish Government said it? No.
 

Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
The EU going forward

Extract:
European Union leaders made a fresh effort on Friday to overcome their differences on how to handle immigrants, but disagreed on the best way forward, with the head of the bloc’s executive saying there would be no EU funds for “barbed wire and walls.”

While total immigration numbers are low compared to the bloc’s population of some 450 million people, the issue feeds support for nationalist and populist groups across the EU, making it hard to reach a compromise among its 27 members.

“Recent months have shown that the pressure of migration is not letting up. It’s actually rising again,” said Austria’s new chancellor, Alexander Schallenberg.

A tightening of the bloc’s external borders was essential, he said, endorsing Lithuania’s call for EU financing for hard border infrastructure such as drones or fences.
 
The EU going forward

Extract:
European Union leaders made a fresh effort on Friday to overcome their differences on how to handle immigrants, but disagreed on the best way forward, with the head of the bloc’s executive saying there would be no EU funds for “barbed wire and walls.”

While total immigration numbers are low compared to the bloc’s population of some 450 million people, the issue feeds support for nationalist and populist groups across the EU, making it hard to reach a compromise among its 27 members.

“Recent months have shown that the pressure of migration is not letting up. It’s actually rising again,” said Austria’s new chancellor, Alexander Schallenberg.

A tightening of the bloc’s external borders was essential, he said, endorsing Lithuania’s call for EU financing for hard border infrastructure such as drones or fences.
There'll be no compromise that all 27 will agree on over this issue. This isn't about what the Commission says or wants. This is about what National leaders & their Parties will face from their own electorate.
 

Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
The EU going forward

Extract:
LONDON, Nov 18 (Reuters) - European Union stock exchanges will be forced to hand over data on market transactions on a single "tape" for investors to spot the cheapest deals and help the bloc compete better with London and New York, a draft EU document shows.

The reform proposal is one of many due next week from the European Commission aimed at knitting together the EU's capital markets after Britain's departure last year and at widening the use globally of the euro in finance.

Brussels wants to build "strategic autonomy" in financial services to rebuild its economy after COVID-19, channel money into 'green' projects, and cut reliance on London, which still clears some 90% of euro-denominated swaps.
 

Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
The EU going forward
Poland testing the EU again......

Polish tribunal rules European rights court cannot question its judges​



WARSAW (Reuters) - Poland's Constitutional Tribunal said on Wednesday that the European Court of Human Rights had no power to question its appointment of judges, rejecting a ruling by Europe's top human rights court in May.

Dismissed by critics as a politicised body, the Constitutional Tribunal has already sparked a crisis in the European Union this year by ruling that parts of the bloc's treaties are incompatible with the Polish constitution.

"Article 6 of the Convention ... as far as it includes the Constitutional Tribunal in its definition of a court, is not compatible," with the Polish constitution, said judge Julia Przylebska, the head of the Tribunal.

She said the article was unconstitutional in as far as it gave the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) the right to assess the legality of the appointment of the Tribunal's judges.
 

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