Chasey

Member
The EU going forward
So Brexit didn’t happen, then why do you continue to post about rejoining?

Because we lost our seat at the table & our benefits

What we have ended up with is EU alignment with subservience to the EU and oversite by the EU

THATS the deel we signed

And despite the fact we are taking one for the team to avoid economic disaster, its STILL bad for business and bad for UK citizens. OK not as disastrously bad as a proper Brexit where we totally ignore EU rules, do our own thing and stop paying into the EU altogether. THAT proper Brexit would have been apocalyptic. No, this half-arsed,"we haven't really left but we are pretending we have" is obviously far more desirable than a Hard Brexit

But its not really Brexit is it.

Lits for me the key goals of Brexit voters and ill demonstrate how we didn't achieve them.
 

Chasey

Member
The EU going forward
Errrr “EU going forward”.
Dire mismanagement......its you going to the EU begging for vaccines & money, not the UK.

Seeing as our percapita growth in the UK since joining the EU has beaten pretty much all other countries in the planet, including Germany and the USA, can you explain why it is that since we have voted to leave / now left we have gone into decline and not improved our position?

Yes, you could say its due to covid? But of course, we have been in decline since 2017 and since covid, we are doing worse than other similar countries within the EU?

Strange that.

I still await the amazing stuff that leaving the EU will bring to the good people of the UK now we are free.

Any examples to offer?

Or is it a standard we won you lost la la la. 😜response?
 
The EU going forward
Seeing as our percapita growth in the UK since joining the EU has beaten pretty much all other countries in the planet, including Germany and the USA, can you explain why it is that since we have voted to leave / now left we have gone into decline and not improved our position?

Yes, you could say its due to covid? But of course, we have been in decline since 2017 and since covid, we are doing worse than other similar countries within the EU?

Strange that.

I still await the amazing stuff that leaving the EU will bring to the good people of the UK now we are free.

Any examples to offer?

Or is it a standard we won you lost la la la. 😜response?
The “good stuff” is currently being injected into people’s arms here in the UK. Would being in the EU have hindered that? I wonder.
What was it that the UK spotted over securing these vaccines and investing in the company that 27 member states and Brussels itself missed.....

Regards to the UK going into decline......how well are the 27 member states doing?
 

Camden

Member
The EU going forward
It looks like this Resettlement scheme will be our loss....seems in part due to our Governments mixed messaging ...

From the article ...“This mixed messaging around settled status on the one hand and voluntary returns on the other, seriously undermines the government’s claim that the rights of vulnerable Europeans will be protected after Brexit "

The news came as research from the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants (JWCI) warned that thousands of European key workers risked losing their legal right to remain in the UK.

The report, titled When the Clapping Stops: EU Care Workers After Brexit, warns that thousands of European citizens currently fulfilling key worker roles in the care sector, as well as those working in construction, manufacturing and agriculture, are at risk of losing their legal status and face removal from the UK.

Of 295 care workers surveyed by the charity, one in seven were unsure what EUSS was, one in three had not heard about it before being in touch with JCWI, and one in three did not know there was a deadline for the settlement scheme, nor when it was. Most of the surveys were conducted between January and March last year.

“If even a tiny fraction of the estimated EEA+ (EU, EEA and Swiss) residents are unable to apply in time, tens of thousands will lose their status overnight,” the report states.

“Without urgent action, the care sector is likely to be devastated,” it adds.

The report calls for the immediate lifting of the deadline for applying to the EUSS, for European citizens to be automatically granted settled status, and for an end to “hostile environment” policies.
 

Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
The EU going forward

Eurostar is 'in peril' and needs UK government help, say British firms​


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British business leaders are calling on the UK government to provide financial help to Eurostar, stressing the COVID-hit rail link to Europe is "in peril".

Eurostar, which is majority-owned by France's state-owned rail company, SNCF, is believed to have tapped into all financial assistance available to them from the French government.

As far as I can tell there is no ownership by the UK......could be wrong.

Eurostar was owned by SNCF, SNCB and British Rail. ... In May 2015, the UK government completed the sale of its 40% share to a consortium made up of two companies: Caisse de Depot et Placement du Quebec (CDPQ) and Hermes Infrastructure.

UK transport secretary: Eurostar is ‘not our company to rescue’​


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Eurostar is not the U.K.’s company to rescue and France remains primarily responsible for bailing out the rail firm, Britain’s Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said today.

“We’ll look to be helpful but we don’t actually own this company,” Shapps told the U.K. parliament’s transport select committee.
 

Chasey

Member
The EU going forward

UK transport secretary: Eurostar is ‘not our company to rescue’​


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Eurostar is not the U.K.’s company to rescue and France remains primarily responsible for bailing out the rail firm, Britain’s Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said today.

“We’ll look to be helpful but we don’t actually own this company,” Shapps told the U.K. parliament’s transport select committee.


Not sure what this has to do with the EU?

Mr Shapps is 100% correct we don't own Eurostar so why the hell should we bail it out? This would surely be the situation had we remained in the EU just as it is the situation now we have left.

I hope our Government would demand shares in the company if they do offer money. I can see a benefit for the UK in keeping Eurostar alive but we should expect our money back with interest if we do.
 

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