Jaycey

African Refugee
The EU going forward
No Jaycey, I’m my own man, as said I don’t speak for others. How you work it out that I must be representative of others is weird. I was one of 17.4 million & I was representative of nobody.
You still haven't said why you were unhappy with the way Brexit has panned out or what it was that you expected.

C;early you have no answer so I'll say Good night.gif xx
 

Chasey

Member
The EU going forward
No Camden, the reason is the electorate has already voted on it, both in the referendum AND a general election.

Yes they voted for a better stronger UK free from the shackles and bureaucracy of the EU
OH, and 250million for the NHS,

Then in the general election, they voted for the easiest deal in history the oven-ready pop it in a microwave deal that will improve all our lives.

Then in 2021, the truth happened and most of the previously Brexit-supporting public went, WTF is going on? You mean the EU isn't cowering at our feet and its US that's fu@ked???:eek:

Going to the polls on a rejoin the EU platform is possibly a bad idea for a short time, but when the real Brexit chaos starts, the actual cost to our freedoms is realized, the cold hard cash cost and the loss of some of our civil rights? THEN it won't be such a bad idea

And lets face it half the "Dads Army, On the busses" era Brexit supporters of 2016 will be dead by then :D
 

Chasey

Member
The EU going forward
They had their way 4 years ago when they didn't understand what they were voting for, seems some - including yourself - still don't.
And I've already said (3 times!) that no party is likely to make a turn on Brexit and is more likely to pass the buck to the public via another referendum.

I think your wrong here.

Another referendum will be avoided id suggest. Those in power know we could never get back in with the huge privileges we had enjoyed before. Getting back in without those benefits would make the negotiating team look week and lose the party votes. For a start, wed have to join the Euro. They will just quietly align us with the EU and do deals that give us a little input into the decisions made in return for greater financial input and support.

We will simply rejoin by stealth

Let's face it, Brexit didn't actually happen.

We are already aligning ourselves with the EU, we have already agreed to do exactly what the EU tells us to do, when they tell us to do it. AND and allow an EU review board to arbitrate on any issues. That's Day 1???

It's a pretty half-hearted attempt at leaving
 
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immac

Senior Member Has-Been
The EU going forward
Let's face it, Brexit didn't actually happen.
That must be the ultimate in denial. OK, you keep believing that if you like, but if true, why do you spend all day, every day, trying to find evidence to support anti-Brexit themes? Every post you write is trying to rubbish UK and support your glorious EU - well you might have drunk the Kool-Aid but others have not.

I see the latest gambit of your beloved EU, is to try to get UK back into Erasmus. When you drill down you find that it is not to benefit UK youngsters, but so the UK taxpayer will carry the burden of EU kids coming to UK. Erasmus did not benefit anyone but middle-class British families, and the new Turin scheme will push working-class kids forward, while saving millions of pounds. Erasmus was a net loss to UK, and it is natural for the EU scroungers to be trying to continue milking of the UK cash-cow.

Ian
 
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Jaycey

African Refugee
The EU going forward
I see value of the Hryvnia is taking a bit of a dive. Anyone think the EU could possibly help them out.
Taking a dive?
The Hryvna is one of the world's most undervalued currencies ... hryvna undervalyed? - Google Search
But any connection to topic is beyond unclear.
And no one is 'rubbishing' the UK - only those pro Brexiters that cant' show any Brexit advantages are being rubbished.
 

35pluschips

Member
Top Poster Of Month
The EU going forward
I think your wrong here.

Another referendum will be avoided id suggest. Those in power know we could never get back in with the huge privileges we had enjoyed before. Getting back in without those benefits would make the negotiating team look week and lose the party votes. For a start, wed have to join the Euro. They will just quietly align us with the EU and do deals that give us a little input into the decisions made in return for greater financial input and support.

We will simply rejoin by stealth

Let's face it, Brexit didn't actually happen.

We are already aligning ourselves with the EU, we have already agreed to do exactly what the EU tells us to do, when they tell us to do it. AND and allow an EU review board to arbitrate on any issues. That's Day 1???

It's a pretty half-hearted attempt at leaving
So Brexit didn’t happen, then why do you continue to post about rejoining?
 

Camden

Member
The EU going forward
I’m sure I read somewhere that the death toll in the EU had reached over 435,000.
They screwed up big time, slow on ordering, slow on dishing the vaccines out that they did acquire.





Have you never heard the phrase on people in glass houses ? You mean like Boris did with our being slow to lockdown, ( "Britain had time. Academics, disease specialists and critics say the prime minister wasted it " ). Or the slow and mismanagement in ordering of PPE ( untendered to tory friends etc) 2nd try costing millions of a useless Covid App , but not late a decanting infected Covid patients to care homes etc etc ( that's what is called screwing up big time )


How the Alarm Went Off Too Late in Britain’s Virus Response

 

35pluschips

Member
Top Poster Of Month
The EU going forward
Have you never heard the phrase on people in glass houses ? You mean like Boris did with our late lockdown, ( "Britain had time. Academics, disease specialists and critics say the prime minister wasted it " ). Or the late and mismanaged ordering of PPE ( untendered to tory friends etc) 2nd try costing millions of a useless Covid App , but not late a decanting infected Covid patients to care homes etc etc ( that's what is called screwing up big time )


How the Alarm Went Off Too Late in Britain’s Virus Response

Have you not read the title of this topic?
 

Camden

Member
The EU going forward
Have you not read the title of this topic?

Yes, ..... Its called the comparison response.... when people deem to criticise others efforts ... When their own response in respects, has been worse ... Glass house syndrome ....some my even call it being Hypocritical.

You may not like it but fact....
 
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35pluschips

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The EU going forward
Yes, ..... Its called the comparison response.... when people deem to criticise others efforts ... When their own response in respects, has been worse ... Glass house syndrome ....some my even call it being Hypocritical.

You may not like it but fact....
Is that what you call it? Strange but you usually call it “whataboutism”.
As said, typical Labour activist, constantly knocking the UK.
EU member states put their trust in the Commission over obtaining various serums and the distribution of them. They let member states along with their citizens down.......nothing to do with the UK.
 

Camden

Member
The EU going forward
Is that what you call it? Strange but you usually call it “whataboutism”.
As said, typical Labour activist, constantly knocking the UK.
EU member states put their trust in the Commission over obtaining various serums and the distribution of them. They let member states along with their citizens down.......nothing to do with the UK.
"Compare and contrast" just refers to noting the similarities and differences, respectively, between two or more things.
In contrast Whataboutism is when there is no attempt to compare and contrast the merits or defects of an issue, only attempts to distract and attack.

No, as a Brexiteer doesn't give you the monopoly on Patriotism .... so not constantly knocking UK , but the Boris led Tory Government and its dire mismanagement , there is a difference can't help if your unable to discern that difference.
 
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35pluschips

Member
Top Poster Of Month
The EU going forward
Compare and contrast" just refers to noting the similarities and differences, respectively, between two or more things.
In contrast Whataboutism is when there is no attempt to compare and contrast the merits or defects of an issue, only attempts to distract and attack.

No, as a Brexiteer doesn't give you the monopoly on Patriotism .... so not constantly knocking UK , but the Boris led Tory Government and its dire mismanagement , there is a difference can't help if your unable to discern that difference.
Errrr “EU going forward”.
Dire mismanagement......its you going to the EU begging for vaccines & money, not the UK.
 

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