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gary and sharon
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
if you ever decide the time has come to return to the UK and you want to take your pet with you, be warned its a very long, arduous process, with little help and months of aggravation!

The reason were sharing his information is that having rescued a puppy from our sitesi when they were being darted, it now resembles a tall,thin, bear but with the best temperament of any dog we've owned and we decided to take it back with us next year.
the below figures etc have come from many many calls and emails which started some 3 months ago and still haven't finished
To give you an example, to finally locate and speak to BA 's agent took calls to the UK,Izmir,Istanbul, back to UK, back to Istanbul,Dalaman and finally an agent so we hope it helps someone.

Firstly, you have to make one of two decisions, quarantine or adoption.
Quarantine
only certain airports in the UK accept animals, IE gatwick, heathrow etc
only certain airports in Turkey allow pets to fly out
they are:- Dalaman-London only with BA or Thomas cook
Izmir-Munich
Bodrum -Munich
NO airlines fly to UK from Izmir or Bodrum

Option 1 quarantine
1. neither airline will allow you to book your animal direct, you have to use a shipping agent who have standard charges according to size of animal but there is very little difference between small and large dogs /cats
The airlines will only allow certain agents to be used..........you know whats coming don't you!!
The very cheapest agent we could find was Thomas crooks charging no less than £1040 to fly our dog from Dalaman to gatwick stating it was handling charges and admin costs that hiked up the price
2. both airlines insist you travel with the pet despite once on the plane your not even allowed to see it once its landed until it arrives in an approved quarantine center
3. all animals must have certain jabs before leaving including rabies, but will be done again upon arrival so expect to pay twice.

There was very little difference in charges between the 3 quarantine centers we obtained quotes from

boarding £51 PW X 26 = £1326
Heating £168
Rabies Jab £48
Bordetella jab £36
gatwick collection fees 145.75
customs clearance 60
Transfer to dalaman 150
crate 81 sub total inc vat £2316.65

flight for dog 1040
flight owner 350 total £3706.65
final vets clearance health check could not be quoted and this doesn't include a pets passport

Now we come to adoption
Option 2
There are very few people who do this as a business and wherever you leave your animal you have to collect 6 months later
the idea is, you get the animal to Germany and the onward to its new home in Spain, France,Netherlands etc any EU country
on arrival another blood test is taken and after 6 months and further tests an EU pet passport is obtained allowing you to collect and bring into the UK

France is a good choice for several reasons;
adoption, because it lives with a family and not in a 6x18 ft cage for 6 months
France, because by the time you've hired a car and driven to one of the above and back, then again 6 months later, its cheaper to pay the proprietor to collect at Munich airport, and then deliver to your ferry in 6 months, IE Plymouth etc

Boarding per month 290 euros x 6m 2 weeks 1875
all vets bills blood and new passport 450
collection from munich 816
Dogs flight 40
owners flight return to munich 136
ferry return 400
Total 3717 euros or £3322

so having finally decided upon this option you have to book your flights first with sun express, then mail/fax the application form with flight booking re for the dog a bog standard form and they email you back an acceptance
BE AWARE .........if you have a tall dog, the website just states any dog, over 6kgs, 4o Euro.
after you've booked your flight stating the crate you've bought is 90cms high, they then send you a mail stating the max height of any crate allowed is 85cm !!
thank god we only adopted one!!:animation
Best of luck Gary and Sharon
 

pixie

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
What a great guide, many thanks, we are currently in the process. Just to let you know that although the agencies insist on you flying with your pet, this is actually a Turkish "law" and plenty of people have sent their pets home, including some friends of ours just 4 days ago, without accompanying them on the flight and we intend to do the same. It is not a DEFRA requirement.
Thanks again for your guide
 
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
A friend of ours took her cats back to UK last November and flew from Bodrum-Manchester-the cats were collected by the kennels who were boarding for the quarantine period.
She used a UK based company to organise documentation,flights,quarantine etc.
Guess regulations must have changed since her return to UK
 
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
only certain airports in Turkey allow pets to fly out
they are:- Dalaman-London only with BA or Thomas cook
Izmir-Munich
Bodrum -Munich
NO airlines fly to UK from Izmir or Bodrum

Dont forget Istanbul and Ankara. I have many friends that have taken their pets out of Istanbul as recently as yesterday.
 

pixie

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Yes we are actually taking ours with Turkish Airlines from Izmir via Istanbul and the total cost including all export custom taxes and agent fees , tranfers etc is 900Euros. (She is a 35kg Golden Retriever and prices are obviously a lot less (or more) depending on size and weight of your animal). We are using an agent in Izmir who are extremely knowledgeable and were recommended to us by our vet here in Fethiye. Also we are not expected to fly with her and Turkish Airlines do not enforce this rule as she is being sent as manifested cargo. Unfortunately there are a lot of crooks who are using the lack of knowledge and the enforcement of false laws to make a lot of under the table money.
 
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
How I wish there were more people like you about who are willing to adopt a stray animal and are willing to pay the cost to take it back to the UK.

Within ten days of arriving here I had adopted a tiny stray pup (now rather a large but very happy and brilliant mut) and later we found a kitten in the garden so, of course, he was taken in. No more - but you never know.

Its so nice to hear of happy stories and good luck in getting your dog back to the UK - think I would go the adoption route via France as quarantine I think is so cruel and pointless when you have all the paperwork to show that the dog or cat has had all its injections.

Sue
 

soulmates2uk

gary and sharon
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
pixie would really appreciate your help
we live in kusadasi so izmir good for us we originaly tried turkish airlnes but they gave us run around saying sharon had to fly with dog
because i have ill health and cant be left alone for long periods (motor neurone hence why going bck next year) sharon chose adoption route flying to munich and back same day
as you know airline approved crates come in fixed sizes we had to go for the 90cm high one got one off ebay(bloody expensive)
now weve booked flights sunexpress say theres a height limit of 85cms!!!
please would you be kind enough to supply details and contact number of the agent in izmir
also if anyone knows the regulations of having a crate made id be grateful thanks
 

pixie

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Yes of course, they are an agency called DUNA-DOKTOROGLU ULUSLARARASI NAK.&TIC.LTD. Their names are Umay and Ferdi and the number is 0 232 425 65 37/38
My husband is turkish so has been speaking to them the whole time so I am not sure if they speak English but maybe you can get a friend to speak Turkish to them if they don't speak english. They really are so knowledgable. We also asked them to organise a crate for us as Daisy needed measurements of 102x76x69 and they have managed to sort us one out for 260tl. It is an IATA approved one - a Gulliver 7.
I hope this helps. Please please don't hesitate if you have any more questions.
 

MIM

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
So does this mean that you can take your dog to any EU country other than the UK without it going into quarantine and if then you stay there for six months and get your dog a passport you can then take him into the UK again without quarantine?

Mary
 
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
So does this mean that you can take your dog to any EU country other than the UK without it going into quarantine and if then you stay there for six months and get your dog a passport you can then take him into the UK again without quarantine?

Mary


As far as I am aware, yes- certainly for France and Germany.


Sue
 

Valian

Let sleeping dogs lie
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Ferdi speaks brilliant English.

The 3 pups I looked after for 5 weeks were collected by Ferdi last Tuesday evening and stayed overnight at his house. On Wednesday evening, they flew with Turkish Airlines to Istanbul (unescorted) and overnighted in the holding facility there. On Thursday morning, they then made the final leg of their journey with Turkish Airlines (unescorted) to Heathrow. They were picked up from there by the quarantine kennels people and are now in some lovely kennels in Gloucester. Their owner says the kennel staff are spoiling them rotten :)
 
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KKOB

Completely Chillaxed
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
So does this mean that you can take your dog to any EU country other than the UK without it going into quarantine and if then you stay there for six months and get your dog a passport you can then take him into the UK again without quarantine?

Mary

A correctly prepared cat or dog may be imported without quarantine into the United Kingdom from the following countries under the Pet passport scheme, but only by an authorised transport company:[3][4] Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France*, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican, Antigua and Barbuda, Ascension Island, Australia, Barbados, Bahrain, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Falkland Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia*, Guadeloupe, Jamaica*, Japan, Réunion*, Malta, Martinique*, Mauritius, Mayotte*, Montserrat, New Caledonia*, New Zealand, St. Helena, St. Kitts & Nevis, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Singapore, Sweden, Taiwan, United States of America, Vanuatu, Wallis and Futuna. Wikipedia.
 
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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
BA fly Izmir to Gatwick, they do not fly Dalaman to Gatwick; this route has been operated by EasyJet since April 2008.
 

bremar

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Good morning everyone, I am off to England on Thursday complete with dog and cat. I have got a copy of the IATA specifications for animal crates if anyone wants them. I will be able to send them by email today or tomorrow and after Thursday.
 

soulmates2uk

gary and sharon
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
hi mim yes thats correct youll need a blood test to allow animal out of turkey no less than 90 days after the test results, and once in france it has another then after 6 months you obtain pet passport and drive into uk no quarrentne
our dogs flights booked the lady is collecting her from munich airport n driving back, where she wil live with an english family on a farm with other dogs and have a stress free happy holiday and after 6 months we can collect or she will bring across on ferry and meet you at port with your dog and new eu pet scheme passport but you can do all this yourself renting a place in france germany etc
 

MIM

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Thanks for all the info, we don't anticipate going back but who knows what the future holds and I really don't want to have to put my dog into quarantine. It's put my mind at rest knowing we could spend six months in another EU counrty with him to prevent this.

Thanks again
 

matty

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
A correctly prepared cat or dog may be imported without quarantine into the United Kingdom from the following countries under the Pet passport scheme, but only by an authorised transport company:[3][4] Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France*, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the Vatican, Antigua and Barbuda, Ascension Island, Australia, Barbados, Bahrain, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Falkland Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia*, Guadeloupe, Jamaica*, Japan, Réunion*, Malta, Martinique*, Mauritius, Mayotte*, Montserrat, New Caledonia*, New Zealand, St. Helena, St. Kitts & Nevis, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Singapore, Sweden, Taiwan, United States of America, Vanuatu, Wallis and Futuna. Wikipedia.

But unfortunately NOT Turkey!!!:confused:
 

poshmollie35

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Hi Pixie, Thanks for your very useful info on taking the dog back to uk, Can i just ask cos im not very clever lol, do you still need them in quarantine on your return to the uk.
 

soulmates2uk

gary and sharon
The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Lucy has left the building (just!)
For those that read my previous thread called the definitive guide for taking a dog back to the UK, Youll be pleased to know, Lucy is now having fun on a farm in Brittany France, going through her six-month quarantine period.
The final move wasn't without a few problems which we would like to share with anyone considering doing this in the future.
Despite having had to see the local vet several times this month, on Thursday Sharon went to have Lucy's final treatments, she was asked if we had the government papers, to which we had no knowledge of. Sharon was then directed to the government building where a new rule only been passed three weeks ago means any person wishing to take any animal out of Turkey has to obtain a government certificate.
On arrival at the government building , Sharon was served by no less than nevset wife, who having spent two hours completing the necessary paperwork then stated would not be accepted at the airport without a holographic stamp.
This procedure and paperwork has to be sent to Aydin forthwith
Following a frantic phone call, Sharon then had to drive to Aydin where a jobs worth go out a role of holograms stamps and placed on the document.
Friday morning 4 am, and Lucy together with her second crate is taken to Izmir airport where on arrival, you have to go through the front entrance to be scanned as usual.
The Sun Express check-in desk were unable to weigh the crate despite their best efforts to alleviate more money as it was clearly over the 30kg allowance. Consequently, the €40 fee was accepted and off she went taking the 7am flight to Munich.
At 9:50am following a three-hour flight, Sharon touchdown into heavy snow blizzard and bitterly cold winds.
a short walk into Terminal 1 and she was asked to wait by a sign stating bulky luggage. A few minutes later, the crate was delivered to her and pushed outside to meet her new foster parents. After a short exchange they drove off with Lucy for the 14 hour drive from Munich back to Brittany.
Today (Monday) Lucy has seen the vet to have her second of rabies test. In six months' time she will again be tested, be issued with an EU passport and driven across the ferry to the UK where we will need to collect her.
We firmly believe the six months spent with a family is not only much cheaper than UK quarantine fees, but causes far less distress to the animal and the owners alike. I will copy and paste this message on to the original thread for but if anyone wants any further information don't hesitate to ask
Gary and Sharon
 

tr_ebo

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The definitive guide to taking a dog back to the UK
Hi all, last mounth I am take 2 dog in spain sevilla - marchena from çeşme to ancona and driver to marchena, now there one lady (from UK) she have 3000 m2 land and wonderfull for u pet stay quarantine 7 mounth price is 1500 EURO Transfer from Aegean region to marchena 3750 EURO one price TOTAL 5250 EURO 1-2-3 dog no problem my schengen visa untill 6-9-2010
if any body want I am here. from sevilla to england fly ticket 20 or 25 EURO 1.5 hour !!!
and if ovner want u can stay her house 30 EURO man and wife with breakfast.
 

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