Scotland - SNP....What Next

[Saoirse]

It's a toss up whether Unionists worse traits are anti democratic bigotry or nauseating sicphany

Some comments on Twitter

Some Twitter users hit back at the GB News presenter’s accusations on the interaction.


One said: “Because its respectful to both parties but not subservient. You see Nicola like most normal self-respecting people knows we are all equal and that no one human or group is any more entitled than another.”

Said another: “It’s not obligatory. When the Queen was in Belfast several years ago and met lots of local people in St Georges Market no one was required, asked or obliged to curtsy to her, including me. We had a rehearsal the day before and all this was discussed,” said another, while one person said it was an “anachronistic and clumsy” gesture.

“Because its an anachronistic and clumsy gesture that has no place in the modern world. In case you haven't noticed (you haven't have you?) this is the twenty-first century,” added another

 

[429nufc]

My understanding of the etiquette is that when presented to the Queen it is normal to curtsey or bow (as sex appropriate) but not a when meeting her in a casual situation
I have no view one way or another it would seem however that Mary Doll would take the opportunity to put one over on the Queen

 

[Camden]

SNP MP jailed for 2 years for embezzlement for Holidays debts etc...

Natalie McGarry, who represented Glasgow East between 2015 and 2017, was convicted of two charges of embezzlement, totalling £24,635, in May after a trial at Glasgow sheriff court.


A jury found her guilty by majority of a charge of embezzling £19,974 while she was treasurer of Women for Independence (WFI), a group she helped set up, between 26 April 2013 and 30 November 2015.

She was also found guilty by majority of a second charge of taking £4,661 between 9 April 2014 and 10 August 2015 when she was treasurer, secretary and convener of the Glasgow Regional Association of the SNP.

Former SNP MP jailed for embezzling £25,000

Natalie McGarry sentenced to two years in prison for embezzling funds from pro-independence groups

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mushroom]

BBC question time has just come on from Inverness.
Just turned off. Most boring Scots in the world.

 

[429nufc]

BBC question time has just come on from Inverness.
Just turned off. Most boring Scots in the world.

You’ve obviously not met anyone from Edinburgh

 

[Mushroom]

You’ve obviously not met anyone from Edinburgh

If I have, they put me to sleep like that lot.
What a set of Mogadons.

 

[SLEEPY]

Oh someone from Scotland with an opinions on THEIR Country..Surely we can't have that !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1542983624143900672

 

[429nufc]

The population of Scotland is approx. 5million in addition approx. 1 million Scots born live outside the country. As it stands they would not have a vote but someone who moved to Scotland after a lifetime in England would have the vote. I wonder what the thinking behind that is!

 

[yalimart]

The population of Scotland is approx. 5million in addition approx. 1 million Scots born live outside the country. As it stands they would not have a vote but someone who moved to Scotland after a lifetime in England would have the vote. I wonder what the thinking behind that is!

The same thinking as the rest of the UK probably

 

[Chasey]

The population of Scotland is approx. 5million in addition approx. 1 million Scots born live outside the country. As it stands they would not have a vote but someone who moved to Scotland after a lifetime in England would have the vote. I wonder what the thinking behind that is!

I don't know but if Scotland rejoined the EU id be buying property in Scotland and applying for residency if I can get that EU passport back. I still kick myself for not doing it a decade ago so my kids wouldn't have over £120,000 of student loans at 6.5% interest.

 

[SLEEPY]

Their arrogance is breathtaking ....

Labour will never strike deal with SNP, Keir Starmer to pledge

Exclusive: Party leader to rule out talks with nationalists in attempt to spike Tory ‘coalition of chaos’ attacks

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mushroom]

I don't know but if Scotland rejoined the EU id be buying property in Scotland and applying for residency if I can get that EU passport back. I still kick myself for not doing it a decade ago so my kids wouldn't have over £120,000 of student loans at 6.5% interest.

In the event of a referendum actually voting for an exit from the UK (unfortunately it won't) you can rest assured that the jocks will be so skint that they would probably not meet EU joining criteria and any debts you may have encountered in England will be nothing compared to what you might get in the republic of Jockland.
It was all fine and dandy having a property in Scotland and sending kids to Uni in Scotland with funding from England but that ship has sailed. You missed it !!

 

[Saoirse]

Nationalists are always intolerant of any criticism that challenge their doctrine, as often seen .

Whilst I don't think Keir's leaning is left enough for many, this Labour stance is in stead with Socialist thinking. Because even the prospect of a break up of the UK leading to a division in the British working class on nationalist lines would be highly counterproductive in any struggle for socialism.

Many forget how divisive the last referendum was not only between the working class but families by an aggressive and intimidating Nationalist Campaign by the SNP supporters.

Already a few days in we are seeing it raise its ugly head ....

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Your English establishment arrogance is actually well beyond breathtaking and seems to know no bounds

When you mention the “British” working class can you not ever get it through your thick London elitist political skull- in both Edinburgh and Belfast there are untold 1000s who most definitely do not consider themselves in any shape or form British!!!

I understand your British political elite including both English Tory parties definitely do like to ignore democracy but Irish Republicans won the recent election and no amount of ignorance or revisionism from johnson or mini me johnson will change that fact

It really underlines how out of touch Tory lite are if they think a mantra of sending a rallying call of all things British - is going to persuade proud Scots along with Irish Republicans to embrace the god awful Britishness!!

You really are in for a rude awakening if you even contemplate the working class in Scotland ably led by Sturgeon and in Belfast FM Sinn Feins O Neill are going to be won over by Starmer and his tory lite Britishness

I take it you do realise if your Johnson stand in does become PM he still has negligible mandate in Edinburgh and absolutely zero in Belfast- labours own rules actually forbid them from even organising there let alone standing for election!

Frankly how could Starmer ever even talk about defending the English working class when he bans his own Mps from backing a legitimate strike- never mind claiming to represent workers in regions where he has almost zero mandate!!!!!!!

I am afraid he’s in for a rude awakening when he meets Belfast’s FM and attempts to portray having any legitimacy there let alone insulting the woman’s National Identity

 

[weegogs]

In the event of a referendum actually voting for an exit from the UK (unfortunately it won't) you can rest assured that the jocks will be so skint that they would probably not meet EU joining criteria and any debts you may have encountered in England will be nothing compared to what you might get in the republic of Jockland.
It was all fine and dandy having a property in Scotland and sending kids to Uni in Scotland with funding from England but that ship has sailed. You missed it !!

"..........with funding from England......." And it's that kind of thinking/attitude that riles up people North of the Border. Instead of thinking its the English tax payers that are paying for free Scots education (which they don't. It's up to the Scottish Government to determine how the money is spent. They chose education and health. The audacity eh?) maybe you should be asking why the English Uni kids still need to pay. My Swedish wife was astounded when she heard that folk in England are required to pay for their kids Uni in this day and age.

 

[Saoirse]

Weegogs it’s the ‘ We English know best” arrogance that is most frustrating and has their English political parties so “ cherished” outside of Engerland

 

[Mushroom]

"..........with funding from England......." And it's that kind of thinking/attitude that riles up people North of the Border. Instead of thinking its the English tax payers that are paying for free Scots education (which they don't. It's up to the Scottish Government to determine how the money is spent. They chose education and health. The audacity eh?) maybe you should be asking why the English Uni kids still need to pay. My Swedish wife was astounded when she heard that folk in England are required to pay for their kids Uni in this day and age.

Are you denying that Jockland cannot self fund and takes funds from England and even then cannot manage it's finances?
This is a nation that has an appalling record on education, health, social care etc.
We are not trying to impose our government- for all its faults, on you.
We just want you to F**k off, go it alone and fail after Jockland being nothing better than sponges for donkeys years.
Go. Asap.

 

[weegogs]

Are you denying that Jockland cannot self fund and takes funds from England and even then cannot manage it's finances?
This is a nation that has an appalling record on education, health, social care etc.
We are not trying to impose our government- for all its faults, on you.
We just want you to F**k off, go it alone and fail after Jockland being nothing better than sponges for donkeys years.
Go. Asap.

"This is a nation that has an appalling record on education, health, social care etc........." Really?? If you are gonna have a pop at those 3.....have a look at the record of the Jockanese compared to England. The Scottish NHS has out performed the English NHS year after year. Education? Really? Heres a link from, of all the Unionist rags, the Herald....https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19929900.snp-scotland-europes-best-educated-country/

Do we not pay taxes in Scotland?? Thing is. I'd be happy if all revenue gained in Scotland stayed in Scotland without anything from Westminster. Wouldnt bother too much about being fully Independent. Somehow the biggest obstacle to this is Westminster. I wonder why? Actually I don't wonder. It's pretty obvious.
Sponges indeed. Actually pishes me off when I hear this from folk who just get info from dubious sources claiming this nonsense. And the whole "f**ck off and fail..." attitude. Better Together eh? You ever wonder why Westminster spent so much money, time and effort to thwart the Independence drive?

 

[juco]

If Scotland ever gets independence you will rapidly see free education and prescriptions disappear and taxes rise even further. In my opinion she is corrupt beyond belief.

 

[Camden]

Your English establishment arrogance is actually well beyond breathtaking and seems to know no bounds

When you mention the “British” working class can you not ever get it through your thick London elitist political skull- in both Edinburgh and Belfast there are untold 1000s who most definitely do not consider themselves in any shape or form British!!!

I understand your British political elite including both English Tory parties definitely do like to ignore democracy but Irish Republicans won the recent election and no amount of ignorance or revisionism from johnson or mini me johnson will change that fact

It really underlines how out of touch Tory lite are if they think a mantra of sending a rallying call of all things British - is going to persuade proud Scots along with Irish Republicans to embrace the god awful Britishness!!

You really are in for a rude awakening if you even contemplate the working class in Scotland ably led by Sturgeon and in Belfast FM Sinn Feins O Neill are going to be won over by Starmer and his tory lite Britishness

I take it you do realise if your Johnson stand in does become PM he still has negligible mandate in Edinburgh and absolutely zero in Belfast- labours own rules actually forbid them from even organising there let alone standing for election!

Frankly how could Starmer ever even talk about defending the English working class when he bans his own Mps from backing a legitimate strike- never mind claiming to represent workers in regions where he has almost zero mandate!!!!!!!

I am afraid he’s in for a rude awakening when he meets Belfast’s FM and attempts to portray having any legitimacy there let alone insulting the woman’s National Identity

I can now revise my statement to., .Nationalists are always intolerant of any criticism that challenge their doctrine, as you can see and read .

As seen they need an enemy to blame, it's the Nationalist way, and how they survive, shout louder and be aggressive don't listen or try to counter instead using the same old boring anti English rhetoric and elitist rubbish ...

In doing so they are disfranchising some Scots by ignoring the vote, from the alter of their argument, the Scots that just want to stay the Union.

The Scots that voted in 2014 to stay in the Union ... ad recently the Scots voted overwhelmingly for parties that want to keep an integrated Union ...

Instead Nats try pathetically hard to tar people who want to retain the Union as unpatriotic even trying to link them to extremists groups, when most are just the ordinary working class, that are not for Independence .. The SNP hypocrites should first look and fix their own party first as we have seen the flag waving ethnic Nationalists , akin to the BNP.

The Scots have seen , felt and paid for the results of bad SNP governance, and are sick to death of the Nationalist rhetoric ... I have been spending time in Scotland .. and have seen it and them for myself ... More than can be said for our your overseas bitter Nat in his Ivory Tower ...

Sturgeon may speak for the SNP, but not for all Scotland nor all Scots ..


Why not the failed on all the others ....

 

[Mushroom]

Just get your independence and F##k off into economic and political oblivion.
Scottish politics is even worse than ours but we arent being propped up financially by your third rate government, we have our own third rate one.
If the SNP wants to ask the English to join in their next referendum as any parting of the union would affect England as well, they would get a resounding result to leave it as we don't want the Jockanese sponging, whinging bastards any more than they want us.
How can a country survive on the strength of its sales of Whisky (Irish Whiskey is much better) and Haggis?
The only thing the country has an abundance of is druggies and alcoholics.