35pluschips

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Scotland - SNP....What Next
Do they honestly think the EU wants another member to keep?
Its in their DNA, when was the last time the EU took in a net contributor?
When it comes to the Continent of Europe, the EU wants the lot, you only have to look how it worked in America. Federal Law across the board, along with one currency.
 

Mushroom

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Scotland - SNP....What Next
A bit like Yorkshire and Humber with 55% receiving benefits?
Unfortunately lumping Yorkshire with North East Lincs to call it Yorkshire & the Humber, it incorporates the likes of Sunny Scunny and Grim Grimsby.
Yorkshire alone, which will one day be a proud self financing republic within England is more than capable of sustaining itself.
We are not landlocked, have the technology, finance and the brains.
AND - we have the mighty Leeds United !!
 

yalimart

The Carnwath Massive
Scotland - SNP....What Next
Unfortunately lumping Yorkshire with North East Lincs to call it Yorkshire & the Humber, it incorporates the likes of Sunny Scunny and Grim Grimsby.
Yorkshire alone, which will one day be a proud self financing republic within England is more than capable of sustaining itself.
We are not landlocked, have the technology, finance and the brains.
AND - we have the mighty Leeds United !!
You also have Sheffield and Barnsley, that's a cross you must bare,
It seems most police camera action docs are filmed in these environs.
 

Mushroom

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You also have Sheffield and Barnsley, that's a cross you must bare,
It seems most police camera action docs are filmed in these environs.
I keep reminding everyone that we all have our black sheep.
Sheffield and Barnsley are in the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire, so are our lepers.
Overall, we are ready to be devolved.
 

yalimart

The Carnwath Massive
Scotland - SNP....What Next
I keep reminding everyone that we all have our black sheep.
Sheffield and Barnsley are in the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire, so are our lepers.
Overall, we are ready to be devolved.
If Yorkshire should gain its independence then I would definitely vote for Scotland to stay in the union, I wish you well
 

juco

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Scotland - SNP....What Next
Its in their DNA, when was the last time the EU took in a net contributor?
When it comes to the Continent of Europe, the EU wants the lot, you only have to look how it worked in America. Federal Law across the board, along with one currency.
If Nicola gets her independence then the EU will accept Scotland (although make it appear difficult) as they want to grab as many countries as possible at any cost then declare the united states of Europe, 1 currency,army etc.
The other point is the EU can stick 2 fingers to the UK if they take in Scotland, something I am sure they would take great pride in doing.
What I dont understand is why she wants independence and then hand it to the EU, is there more behind this than we know?
Nicola has a very very small group within the SNP who are privvy to most things, she wont allow any criticism or debate with most issues in Holyrood and she bullies most of her MSPs, she is not liked within her own party.
 

35pluschips

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If Nicola gets her independence then the EU will accept Scotland (although make it appear difficult) as they want to grab as many countries as possible at any cost then declare the united states of Europe, 1 currency,army etc.
The other point is the EU can stick 2 fingers to the UK if they take in Scotland, something I am sure they would take great pride in doing.
What I dont understand is why she wants independence and then hand it to the EU, is there more behind this than we know?
Nicola has a very very small group within the SNP who are privvy to most things, she wont allow any criticism or debate with most issues in Holyrood and she bullies most of her MSPs, she is not liked within her own party.

It’ll all be thrashed out in televised debates, hopefully just on Scottish TV channels.
 

mollag

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Scotland - SNP....What Next
Hmm, all the same, loads of negative posts for Scotland leaving, and it's the usual suspects.
IMHO I hope they get the result to leave and live happily ever after. (y)
Now, what's the story with Northern Ireland, loads of dissatisfaction with Westminster, Two Unionist leaders deposed for aiding and abetting Boris, more Brexit bad news around the corner, any news from folk who live there as to the street vibe?
 

immac

Senior Member Has-Been
Scotland - SNP....What Next
So which one is it?
You seem to be contradicting yourself.
Poor Remainers! Poor, poor Remainers. What a tangled mess they are in; they oppose Brexit, but deny the validity of the last referendum in Scotland. "Do it again," and presumably again, and again, until they get the vote they want (even though the Scottish people have rejected it).
They live in a world of contradictions; the real world is a very confusing place for such simple souls: I don't think we should mock them in public (although it is fun!).

Ian
 

mollag

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It seems the obvious Hypocrisy spotting has the Fright wing Brexiteers dancing, give the Jocks what you demanded, an opportunity to exit a Political Union that doesnt work for them, Same Same as Brexit, no worries for the rump UK, they get to keep Boris and Farage and Rees Mogg, they will look after them all ever so well, and less Johnny Foreigners as a bonus . Go for it you Teuchters, shed that dead weight holding you back, you know it makes sense, your European Family awaits you, an expanded Auld Alliance. {Northern Ireland welcome as fellow travelers]
 

immac

Senior Member Has-Been
Scotland - SNP....What Next
The problem with Middle Class Socialists (the ones we see on here) is that they decide what is good for the lower classes, and they are determined they will have it, whether they like it of not: the hoi polloi don't know what is good for them, after all. Socialists believe in forcing change upon people so they can experience real freedom, like it or not.

This Indyref2 argument is a case in point. Evidenced by a poll in The Scotsman this morning, it shows there is no change to the desires of the Scots for independence since the last referendum, with a good 6% majority against. The Scotsman is a pro-independence paper.

"Despite the overwhelming victory for the SNP in the Holyrood election, support for independence has barely changed, with 43 per cent of Scots saying they would back Yes, 47 per cent stating they would vote No, with 8 per cent of Scots undecided on the issue.

With don’t knows excluded, support for No continues to lead on 53 per cent of the vote with Yes behind on 47 per cent, albeit up one point since the last Savanta ComRes poll prior to the election."

Yet the Champagne Socialists on here continue to try to force it down the throats of the people. What do the people know, after all!


Ian
 

Akasya

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Scotland - SNP....What Next
The problem with Middle Class Socialists (the ones we see on here) is that they decide what is good for the lower classes, and they are determined they will have it, whether they like it of not: the hoi polloi don't know what is good for them, after all. Socialists believe in forcing change upon people so they can experience real freedom, like it or not.

This Indyref2 argument is a case in point. Evidenced by a poll in The Scotsman this morning, it shows there is no change to the desires of the Scots for independence since the last referendum, with a good 6% majority against. The Scotsman is a pro-independence paper.

"Despite the overwhelming victory for the SNP in the Holyrood election, support for independence has barely changed, with 43 per cent of Scots saying they would back Yes, 47 per cent stating they would vote No, with 8 per cent of Scots undecided on the issue.

With don’t knows excluded, support for No continues to lead on 53 per cent of the vote with Yes behind on 47 per cent, albeit up one point since the last Savanta ComRes poll prior to the election."

Yet the Champagne Socialists on here continue to try to force it down the throats of the people. What do the people know, after all!


Ian
Where is Labours demand for an Independent Scotland , any evidence for the Official Labour Party making such a statement and formally backing seperation ?
As for forcing things down the throat , the only party to suspend Parliament and force through laws of questionable legality ar the Conservatives .
Try to Give the Daily Heil a miss now and then , reality is out there but may be hard for you fascists to discern .
Steve
 
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35pluschips

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Where is Labours demand for an Independent Scotland , any evidence for the Official Labour Party making such a statement and formally backing seperation ?
As for forcing things down the throat , the only party to suspend Parliament and force through laws of questionable legality ar the Conservatives .
Try to Give the Daily Heil a miss now and then , reality is out there but may be hard for you fascists to discern .
Steve

I’m under the impression that Labour wants Scotland to remain part of the UK. Not sure what their stance is over a second referendum......Camden might know.
 

immac

Senior Member Has-Been
Scotland - SNP....What Next
Where is Labours demand for an Independent Scotland , any evidence for the Official Labour Party making such a statement and formally backing seperation ?
I understand your inability to comprehend complicated ideas, it must be a real burden to bear. But it should make you read twice before writing. I did not mention "Labour".

Ian
 

juco

Member
Scotland - SNP....What Next
Nicola will manipulate as much as she can to get votes, already reduced the age of voting to 16, I suspect that age group love the idea of independence but haven't a clue what it will actually mean in the longer term.
 

mollag

Kipper restorer
Scotland - SNP....What Next
The problem with Middle Class Socialists (the ones we see on here) is that they decide what is good for the lower classes, and they are determined they will have it, whether they like it of not: the hoi polloi don't know what is good for them, after all. Socialists believe in forcing change upon people so they can experience real freedom, like it or not.

This Indyref2 argument is a case in point. Evidenced by a poll in The Scotsman this morning, it shows there is no change to the desires of the Scots for independence since the last referendum, with a good 6% majority against. The Scotsman is a pro-independence paper.

"Despite the overwhelming victory for the SNP in the Holyrood election, support for independence has barely changed, with 43 per cent of Scots saying they would back Yes, 47 per cent stating they would vote No, with 8 per cent of Scots undecided on the issue.

With don’t knows excluded, support for No continues to lead on 53 per cent of the vote with Yes behind on 47 per cent, albeit up one point since the last Savanta ComRes poll prior to the election."

Yet the Champagne Socialists on here continue to try to force it down the throats of the people. What do the people know, after all!


Ian
The problem with dog in the mange Brexiteers is selective memory, those percentages are similar to the UK surveys for Brexit which was why Cameron went for the vote, never thinking or hoping for a leave result, Let them choose for themselves, give them the vote, it's just what you were given, Corrupt Tory boys will never spot the obvious without a backhander. Prepare for life as Billy no mates, England.
 

35pluschips

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Nicola will manipulate as much as she can to get votes, already reduced the age of voting to 16, I suspect that age group love the idea of independence but haven't a clue what it will actually mean in the longer term.
TBF all Parties & their leaders do that.
The other side of the coin is, a bunch of 16 year old's could end up being responsible for 40 year old's with kids being put out of work.
 
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