Camden

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I thought you two would get on well an English Nationalist (Brexiteer to boot ) and Irish Nationalist and you complain of my strange bedfellows.... wow ..
 

Saoirse

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Did you realise George and indeed Jeremy C are strong SF supporters lol

Talk your way out of that one lol
 

Camden

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Did you realise George and indeed Jeremy C are strong SF supporters lol

Talk your way out of that one lol

Ha ha, how naive to think the personal opinions and views on particular political subjects of both men, should in some way negate both Socialist principles and the voices and opinions of others....

jog on grandad your old sectarian views should be dead and buried not resurrected through Nationalism ...
 
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Saoirse

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Lol

George must be sectarian too

As for JC big buddies with Gerry A for decades

You need to get clued in

How can you be anti Irish Nationalist when your party is linked to an Irish Nationalist one and many of your heroes are big buddies with the Shinners lol!

Back to the drawing board for you Camden you dont even understand your own parties connections and some with staunch support of Nationalists

I have went easy on you but seriously get clued in

Think you are in wrong party......try Lib Dems!!!!
 

Camden

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Lol

George must be sectarian too

As for JC big buddies with Gerry A for decades

You need to get clued in

How can you be anti Irish Nationalist when your party is linked to an Irish Nationalist one and many of your heroes are big buddies with the Shinners lol!

Back to the drawing board for you Camden you dont even under6your own parties connections and stau8support of Nationalists

Think you are in wrong party......try Lib Dems!!!!

Your naivety it sees no bounds so repeat in case you are just slow on the uptake ....

Ha ha, how naive to think the personal opinions and views on particular political subjects of both men, should in some way negate both Socialist principles and the voices and opinions of others....

I shouldn't have to explain to you people who lived as a Socialist, espousing socialist views but on death died as a Nationalist following its ideology ..
 
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Saoirse

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Nope you ain't getting it

Lazy ignorant of the facts thinking that Irish Nationalism is the same as the British flavour

Try some history that should get you started

Meanwhile check out John Hume Nobel winner and try and see he was no Tommy R!!!!

Back on topic - roll on Scottish Polls

Labour stuffed by another version of Nationalism
 
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Camden

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Nope you ain't getting it

Lazy ignorant of the facts thinking that Irish Nationalism is the same as the British flavour

Try some history that should get you started

Meanwhile check out John Hume Nobel winner and try and see he was no Tommy R!!!!

Back on topic - roll on Scottish Polls

Labour stuffed by another vers6of Nationalism

Just shows how insidious Nationalism is, you want to portray the face of Irish Nationalism using a truly great man the late John Hume the Peacemaker and co winner with a Unionist of the Nobel Peace prize.

But fail to mention the same ideology, and a Nationalism closer to your own, contemplated killing him.... Yes, your Nationalist ideology eats its own, as well as needing enemies to survive and divide the working class...

I told you we would never agree ... This is a Scottish politics thread not English not Irish no matter how much you want to drag it in ... so will be sticking to the Scottish election...
 
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Saoirse

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Well you're a slow learner but it's a start that you are beginning to see you were entirely wrong to condemn all nationalism as the same and certainly you're hopefully grasping that Irish and British version are polar opposites

Great way to assess this who in a political arena you dont know is judge by their various allies who you do know



Backing unionism and attending their conference rallies etc are BNP EDL UKIP NF OO BF and indeed old Johnson at the Dup conference as guest of honour

In Irish Nationalism corner ANL SWP Gay Rights LGBT UK and Ireland as well as significant members of Labour and SNP

I think you can get the drift


If you need any more help just ask
 

Camden

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Well you're a slow learner but it's a start that you are beginning to see you were entirely wrong to condemn all nationalism as the same and certainly you're hopefully grasping that Irish and British version are polar opposites

Great way to assess this who in a political arena you dont know is judge by their various allies who you do know



Backing unionism and attending their conference rallies etc are BNP EDL UKIP NF OO BF and indeed old Johnson at the Dup conference as guest of honour

In Irish Nationalism corner ANL SWP Gay Rights LGBT UK and Ireland as well as significant members of Labour and SNP

I think you can get the drift


If you need any more help just ask

Good try, to pivot away from the ugly face of Nationalism wanting to kill their own ....

So it's just your Nationalism the ones who contemplate murdering their own thats ugly ? No.

The only difference in the Nationalism you have shown Irish, English & Scottish is the degree of extreme....
 

Saoirse

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You seem deliberately incapable of accepting facts

Let's make it easy for you

John Hume leader of Irelands biggest Nationalist party ( SDLP)- pacifist respected around the world and ardent Irish Nationalist

Respected by everyone

So why are you rambling on nonsense against Irish Nats when we had people like Hume???

Are you drunk????

I know only of right wing bigots and those with no knowledge whatsoever of the situ who would have such bizarre inaccuracies
 

Camden

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You seem deliberately incapable of accepting facts

Let's make it easy for you

John Hume leader of Irelands biggest Nationalist party ( SDLP)- pacifist respected around the world and ardent Irish Nationalist

Respected by everyone

So why are you rambling on nonsense against Irish Nats when we had people like Hume???

Are you drunk???

When you have at least a proper counter to posts come back ... as now you are making a fool of yourself.... being all over the place ..
 
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Saoirse

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Lol

You dont seem to grasp your party supported Nationalists but you have dug yourself into a corner because you obviously didnt know that!!!

I will make it easy for you

Labour/ SDLP sister parties!!!

SDLP Belfasts biggest Nationalist party so you're either pissed or high!!!

Though you were even worse earlier when you were proud of George G- then you found out he was an SF supporter!!!

Hasn't been your day but this is what happens if you dont know your subject
Lol
 

Camden

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Lol

You dont seem to grasp your party supported Nationalists but you have dug yourself into a corner because you obviously didnt know that!!!

I will make it easy for you

Labour/ SDLP sister parties!!!

SDLP Belfasts biggest Nationalist party so you're either pissed or high!!!

Lol
And who contemplated killing Hume ? the Nationalists ... yip... do you actually know your own history of Nationalism ?.

Shame on you hiding behind this man denying your own form of Nationalism that contemplated killing him ..

Like I said you are all over the place ...
 

Saoirse

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Lol

Dont take it to heart you wont be the first or last trendy lefty who gets it all ass about face with our politics

But remember what you've learnt today- Corbyn Galloway Scargill Tony Benn Mick Megahey etc all good people and sympathetic to Irish......NATIONALISM

Best check with me in future to keep you right which side your heroes backed

Pmsl
 

Camden

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Lol

Dont take it to heart you wont be the first or last trendy lefty who gets it all ass about face with our politics

But remember what you've learnt today- Corbyn Galloway Scargill Tony Benn Mick Megahey etc all good people and sympathetic to Irish......NATIONALISM

Best check with me in future to keep you right which side your heroes backed

Pmsl

Pity you have learned nothing in all your years ... apart from an old, and I would like to have said ,an outdated sectarian view in that Myopic world of Irish politics but I can't .... And also what can taken from your posts is the Degrees of extreme you can get in Nationalism ..

And then to you, showing a disingenuous face ....hiding behind John Hume, and denying your form of Nationalism that contemplated killing people like him to further there Ideology ... Nationalism .....
 
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Camden

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To any followers who still believe that Scottish nationalism is civic and joyous, the black saltire shown on this car belongs to a proto fascist ethnic nationalist group Sìol nan Gàidheal

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Camden

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Twitter ... BREAKING: SNP #SouthScotland SNP candidate #EmmaHarper says on ITV news that she “wants a border with England... because Jobs can be created if a border is created”. “Boris Johnson has shown” she says “that a border “can work” in Northern Ireland!”

Her comments soon drew condemnation and were branded 'absurd' and called a 'fantasy' by opposition politicians.
 

Saoirse

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Well we will see next month

Either that's all true and Labour will walk it or its total crap made up by Labour because they are desperate and SNP will win

Roll on results

PS I know Tory Starmer is obsessed with sticking by Tory policies like no to a Referendum -but for once should he not consider what the remaining shambles of his own party actually want! Lol

 
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