enoch

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Camden

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If he does they should boot him out .

I can understand your thinking, but giving him an excuse which he could use in his favor, to explain to the electorate, why he was taking Turkey further into the sphere of the The Russians isn't a good thing ... but what would p**s him of more, making him think twice of blackmail..

Nato could call his bluff, by taking up the offer from their allies either Jordan or even better within Iraq from the Kurdish Regional Government of Iraqi, which has offered use of bases there, certainly wouldn’t please him. But he really couldn't really complain having given us option and with him having relations with the Kurds of Erbil .
 

Jaycey

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Nato
Senate committee passes bipartisan bill to stop Trump withdrawing from Nato...

"Legislation to stop Donald Trump from withdrawing the US from Nato has been approved for a Senate vote, amid uncertainty over the president’s intentions towards the alliance.

The Senate foreign relations committee on Wednesday voted unanimously for the bipartisan bill which will now await a slot to go to the Senate. Senator Tim Kaine, the draft legislation’s lead Democratic sponsor, said it was a response to fears that the Trump administration is actively considering withdrawal.

“We’re aware that it has been seriously debated and seriously considered in the White House at the highest levels,” Kaine told the Guardian. Trump’s former national security adviser, John Bolton, reportedly warned last month that, if re-elected in 2020, Trump could go “full isolationist” and withdraw from the 70-year-old North Atlantic alliance.

Kaine predicted his bill to block a Nato withdrawal would gain overwhelming support from the House of Representatives and win a veto-proof majority in the upper chamber of at least 67 votes...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...l&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK
 

Jaycey

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Ukraine ready to boost contributions to NATO operations...

The minister hopes for political support of NATO allies that a decision on a NATO Membership Action Plan for Ukraine be made at the next NATO summit.

Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Taran says Ukraine is ready to increase contributions to NATO operations and send additional personnel to the Alliance structures.

"We're ready to increase national contributions to NATO-led operations, as well as send additional military and civilian personnel to the Alliance structures, and start implementing practical activities to establish online information exchange, using automated systems," he told the official government gazette Uriadovy Kurier on December 5.

Read alsoZelensky to Johnson: Ukraine needs NATO Membership Action Plan – MFA

According to Taran, all this should make Ukraine stronger and bring it closer to the strategic goal, that is full-fledged membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

"In this context, we clearly define our ambitions to receive a NATO Membership Action Plan [MAP] and hope for the full political support of NATO allies that such a decision be made at the next NATO summit in 2021," the minister summed up.

https://www.unian.info/politics/def...ontributions-to-nato-operations-11245199.html
 

Kanga

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To anyone with family planning to join the forces; one of the interview questions is to ask what the acronym NATO stands for. If they can't answer they won't get any further.
It's surprising how many youngsters don't know what NATO is. a friend's son had done very well in interviews until this floored him and he was shown the door.
 

Jaycey

African Refugee
Nato
I'd put money on it that Germany, NATO member or not will not get involved in a war with Russia. Their stance on Nord Stream Two should tell everyone something.
It tells me that they put the risk of Russian gas before that of their national security.
 

Camden

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The United States warned Germany Monday that it is not willing to compromise on the dispute over the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, which will carry Russian gas to Europe, German media reported.

Washington's new administration is "determined to use all available levers to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2," the spokesperson for the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, Joseph Giordono-Scholz, told Der Tagesspiegel.

 

35pluschips

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The United States warned Germany Monday that it is not willing to compromise on the dispute over the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, which will carry Russian gas to Europe, German media reported.

Washington's new administration is "determined to use all available levers to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2," the spokesperson for the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, Joseph Giordono-Scholz, told Der Tagesspiegel.


It’s not as if Nord/2 is something new, it’s been going on for years. I would’ve thought the plans are there by the US to stop it.....if they can.
The problem is, Germany doesn’t just want it, they need it.
Not forgetting there’s also TurkStream which is also bypassing Ukraine.
 

Jaycey

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The United States warned Germany Monday that it is not willing to compromise on the dispute over the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, which will carry Russian gas to Europe, German media reported.

Washington's new administration is "determined to use all available levers to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2," the spokesperson for the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, Joseph Giordono-Scholz, told Der Tagesspiegel.
What, more sanctions or more tut tuts? Neither have shown any success thus far.

IMO the US should lay a few submersible mines and blame the Chinese, Iraqis, Saudis, N Korea or pretty much anybody else - and while they are about it maybe the bl00dy Kerch bridge as well!

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Camden

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What, more sanctions or more tut tuts? Neither have shown any success thus far.

IMO the US should lay a few submersible mines and blame the Chinese, Iraqis, Saudis, N Korea or pretty much anybody else - and while they are about it maybe the bl00dy Kerch bridge as well!

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Offer a cheaper alternative reducing the price of American Shale Oil & Gas ... Which as flooded the world market looking for buyers.
 

Jaycey

African Refugee
Nato
Offer a cheaper alternative reducing the price of American Shale Oil & Gas ... Which as flooded the world market looking for buyers.
Green energy is the way to go - wind, solar, hydro, nuclear, hydrogen etc. & problem sorted.
 

35pluschips

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Offer a cheaper alternative reducing the price of American Shale Oil & Gas ... Which as flooded the world market looking for buyers.
TBF I don't think the US could ever compete pricewise with Russia over gas. Even in a price war Russia would win.
 

Andybutt

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Nato
Correct! Shale oil and gas from the US could not compete ever! Expensive way to get hydrocarbons out of the ground
 

35pluschips

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Correct! Shale oil and gas from the US could not compete ever! Expensive way to get hydrocarbons out of the ground

Plus the shipping of it from the US to Europe comes at a financial and environmental cost.
Merkel isn’t stupid & like most women, she’s well on the ball for saving the pennies
 

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