moving to marmaris

[silverstargazer]

hi all my wife and i are looking to move over asap been a couple of times and have decide to take the plunge and leave blighty i am an all round builder and will be looking to get into work asap hope fully doing work on hotels after seasson is closed but also heard there are many british people living in marm we have heard lots of diffrent things about visas we need so any advice we be welcome my wife is a singer so will only be looking for seassonal work also could anyone give some advice on renting a 2 bed appartment in marm.and last of all could i say hi to all on this site and hope to speak to lots of you over time xx:ballchain

 

[maggie]

Hi and welcome.

Someone will soon be along with some info for you.

Its hard to get work as someone will soon explain to you.

Hugs Maggie xxxx

 

[juco]

You can almost forget working as it is unlikely you will get a work permit, if you work without one consider deportation a strong probability.

Sorry to ruin the dream.

 

[Harem]

Noooo don't do it. Only move over here if you don't need to work. Don't even think about it if you need to work.

PS Look at the thread Cardinal Sins

 

[Sunny Seasider]

Welcome to the forum, Visas', you can apply for, but work, well the other posts have answered this for you.

 

[Terry the Celt]

Sorry Silverstargazer.
There have been many threads on this subject of getting work in Turkey and it seems to be impossible in the tourist areas as well as illegal without a work permit.

 

[saz]

hi and welcome

we live in marmaris and have done for the last 6 years - you will not get work on any hotels and you will find it very hard to get a work visa - yeah you may get the odd job for expats but dont rely on it. your wife may get a job in the season as a singer but again she will have to work for a holiday company and obtain a work visa

i guess this is not what you want to hear but the best way to live here is not to have to work as jobs and visas are very rare.

you will find lots of apartments around marmaris for rent and look to pay anything from 400ytl to 600ytl depending on location and furnishing extra

hope that helps and just shout if you need any other info

saz

 

[christygee]

to work here in turkey you need a work visa and you need a letter from god to get one.if you get caught working with out one you will be deported last year a few brits in marmaris was deported you wife on the other hand could work for a uk holiday firm but the hours are long and not very good money.i hope ive not put you of but this is the reality of it .

 

[silverstargazer]

hi all thanks for your replies can i just add tho when we were last out there i was told there could be chance of doing a large hotel up from scratch how true the ofer is i will have to see but coming back out in sept .I would not be trying to work without the correct visas and nor my wife. cant understand how everybody says that i would not get work at all there must be jobs out there if even not building ones i also are looking in a couple of years to open a small bar so this is why we looking to move once again thanks for your comments :car:

 

[Sunny Seasider]

Yes there is work, but if you are not Turkish, you have to apply for a Work Permit (meaning permission to work), and they are rarely given, a Turkish person can be a builder (steady on guys) and a Turkish person can sing, therefore you will not be able to step into their trade. You will not be able to work without this, if you do and you are caught, you are deported!!!

 

[Woodspeckie]

Turkish jobs are for Turkish people and it doesn't need a Prime Minister to say it!!

 

[matty]

Dont do it! Far too many illegal workers here..

 

[Tess]

Hi and welcome, I would advise you to catch up on the various threads regarding working in Turkey. I hope all works out for you, look forward to your posts.

 

[juco]

And DO NOT believe any turkish firm that will say its ok and they will get the work permit, until you have it in your hand you aint got it.

As for a small bar I dont believe you can own it outright and it must have a Turkish partner (now say bye bye to your bar) and you cannot work in it and MUST employ turkish people.

 

[civciv]

There is a huge lack of jobs for Turks, especially in the winter, and I think if you were seen working, someone would report you to the police, and you would be deported and not allowed into Turkey for 5 years. Please bare that in mind especially since you probably dont speak the language and would stand out like a sore thumb. Last summer 2 english women were deported from Marmaris for allegedly working in a Nursery.

Doing odd jobs for people is one thing, but being seen working on building projects is so different.

 

[saz]

Yeah CivCiv you are very correct 2 british women were deported and also several others who worked in bars and shops - you will be escorted to the airport and not allowed back for 5 years - BE CAREFUL

You can have a company without a Turkish partner but it would have to be LTD and then you have to have an account and pay ssk etc - we have a limited company and it costs us a fortune to run every month!! something we were not told and for us to close our company should we wish too will cost nearly 4 times what it cost to open!! Also even if you own the company you can not work for it again you must have a visa.

Do your homework before buying a bar, if you speak to most the bars in marmaris they have really struggled this season and many will be closing and not reopening. My advice would be to stay well clear of anything which needs tourists - yeah does not leave much else!

With regards to working and building a hotel why are they going to employ you when they can employ turkish builders for silly money a day, do you speak turkish as if you dont how will you work with other builders. As people have said there are loads of turks looking for work everywhere and in marmaris you will see loads of them standing on the road side looking for day jobs and you can pick them up for 10ytl a day.

I agree with work permits and also how hard they are to obtain, why should we take away jobs from turks? what do we all complain about in the UK? Everyone coming to the UK and getting housing, benefits and jobs - UK let anyone in and dont look after their own. At least the turks do.

Sorry if agian this is not what you want to hear but really I have lived here for 6 years and know too well what goes on in marmaris - everyone knows everyone and you cant even fart without the whole of marmaris knowning!!

Move here put money in bank and relax!!!!

 

[Akasya]

Jackie and meself know personally of a case where work was offered to an English expat, once the work was underway and it came to time for the first " draw " down of cash, the Police appeared and carted them off to the Airport. Their house was then moved into by the " contractor " and £55,000 of their cash was seized at the Airport. The return of the cash is still subject to a legal appeal. It is believed that the contractor set the whole scenario up, the Police will not divulge who informed because it is seen as the action of a concerned and honourable citizen.

We also know of a case of a young lady, working for an Emlak, became pregnant by a local young man, Police informed that she was working illeglly, still kicked out, and not given the chance to prove who the daddy was.

We use the services of a Turkish gardener, professional Gent, not a rakeover tidy up merchant, he is expensive and commands a premium he costs 50 ytl a day. This is considered very good money in Bodrum.

Think on Sir.

Steve

 

[Harem]

A member of this forum posted a thread in which he stated that when he was painting the outside of his house there was a Turkish man taking photographs of him. Again, when he was cleaning his windows, the same Turkish man was taking photos of him. When he was cutting his grass - guess what? Yes, there was the Turkish man taking photos again!!! The lesson here is that if you are working, even doing your own jobs, there is someone watching, waiting to report you.

 

[Yildez Datca]

You have been given good advice; as a foreigner working openly you will always be highly visible and someone will always shop you to the police! Even foreigners with Turkish nationality working legally are often reported and have to show their passport or ID.

Akasya is spot on regarding daily rates of pay; even specialist tradesmen such as stonemasons rarely earn more than 60 TL a day, and in Datca the rate for general labourers has been pushed down to 40TL because so many are looking for work.

If you can't live here without working, forget it! Sorry.

 

[goldmattymiss]

HI three years ago I was like you are now full of dreams of living here in Turkey ,So we sold up moved out here knowing abount the work permit issues ect and thought wont be a problem for us !!!! how wrong we were ,we invested all our money into a bar ,had a turkish partner and all was well untill I needed to work in the bar to cover sickness guess what the jandarme came a calling .Our partner was very good and smoothed things over, but if you want to spend the rest of your days here looking over your shoulder watching every word you say afraid that at anytime someone can and will report you then do it ,
But please remember that a holiday out here is great to retire out here again I would recomend it but anything else please leave alone .
We return back to the Uk in little over 5 weeks homeless ,jobless ,Do I regret it no it has made me a wiser person and given me some great experiences but trust me trying to work in 40 degree heat without a day off for 6 months cope with the Turkish attitude on time keeping ect is not fun.
There is a website for the social and labour department for turkey and you will find the information on there very helpful ,
As for your wife her job would come under one of the restricted jobs for citizens other than turkish .
hope this helps and makes you think long and hard before taking the plunge.