living in turkey
hi everyone,

we have had a villa in ovacik for 4 years and love every minute of it we are seriously considering on moving out there permantley but we do not know anyone within our area who are already permanently there to ask about pros and cons. is the cost of living really as good as with been told? how much is private medical insurance? putting your savings in banks to live off interest all questions we need to ask for us to make our minds up


please help


martin&sharon:
 

KKOB

Completely Chillaxed
living in turkey
The biggest saving that you'll make in Turkey against the UK is the Council Tax.

Unfortunately, the price of many things in Turkey have caught up with those of the UK in the past couple of years.

The cost of private medical insurance depends entirely on the level of cover that you think you need.

One point to think about is, if you're living here in the winter, how are you going to heat your villa? Open-plan villas are wonderful in the spring and summer, but they're a bugga to heat in the autumn and winter, especially with the number of powercuts that we experience out here.
 

butt007

Warren
living in turkey
Hello to you both, my wife and I came out here to live 2 years ago in Konakli near Alanya, we live off our state pensions plus private pensions (smallish ones), and we manage quite easily, of course you do have to remember that you are not on holiday like the tourists!
As KKOB said you will save on council tax, we paid ours yesterday 79lira, but then again set against that if your villa is on a complex you will have annual charges for the complex.
Food has gone up quite a bit in the 2 years we have been here, around 20% I should think, but veg on the markets are cheap.
Med ins, well all depends on age and what cover!
Living of bank interest, well yes 6 months ago you could I suppose it was 18% but now it's 11.5%, so, you would need an awful lot of cash tied up to do it in a hi-interest account.
Warren
 

teresa

Free Thinker
living in turkey
I agree with KKOB apart from the council tax there is not a lot of difference in the cost of living. It was our lifestyle that changed when we moved over and the trappings of UK living disappeared. Our "needs" changed.

We no longer needed all the things that seemed important in the UK and now our needs boil down to food, drink, dog food and petrol. Replacing things because they have gone wrong and not because there is a newer model out is now the norm.

It isn't for everyone but we are happy.
 

dalyansteve

Member
living in turkey
1 you cannot expect to live like you are permanantly on holiday. Unless you are very rich.
2 the points made before by the other members are very true.
3 you must like each others company, day in, day out.
4 you must be able to do a lot of things on your own.
5 it helps if you are laid back and patient.
6 do not expect it to be like england or wish it to be, it isn't.
That's my six kurus worth, I am sure others will have more to say.
 

Martyn

Member
living in turkey
1 you cannot expect to live like you are permanantly on holiday. Unless you are very rich.
2 the points made before by the other members are very true.
3 you must like each others company, day in, day out.
4 you must be able to do a lot of things on your own.
5 it helps if you are laid back and patient.
6 do not expect it to be like england or wish it to be, it isn't.
That's my six kurus worth, I am sure others will have more to say.

I think point 6 covers it from my viewpoint be prepared to change and some people don't like change.
 

flowerpotman

No Clique just Creak
living in turkey
My only hope is that B&Q open more stores lol. Oh to be able to walk into a shop and get what you need.
 
living in turkey
1 you cannot expect to live like you are permanantly on holiday. Unless you are very rich.
2 the points made before by the other members are very true.
3 you must like each others company, day in, day out.
4 you must be able to do a lot of things on your own.
5 it helps if you are laid back and patient.
6 do not expect it to be like england or wish it to be, it isn't.
That's my six kurus worth, I am sure others will have more to say.
Six great points and I whole-heartedly agree.
Re point 1 : Dont worry if those people who do live like they're on permanent holiday try to make you feel as if you're the one out of step! We came to live here for our enjoyment - not other peoples.
Re point 6 : Remember why you came to live here and enjoy it for all the right reasons. It isnt the UK and no matter how huge the increase in all day english breakfast cafes, it never will be. Thats why we moved to Turkey because it is Turkey! A different lifestyle, a different pace, and a re-assessment of whats important in life to us - which may not necessarily suit others, but it suits us.
 

Sailor

Member
living in turkey
I too wish to retire to Turkey in the future but there has been no mention of learning the language and getting to know the locals.Is Turkish essential to live fulltime in Turkey or get by with a smattering.I presume any foreigners living over there don't keep to their own communities but have plenty of Turkish friends, otherwise you would be trying to create a home from home?
 

flowerpotman

No Clique just Creak
living in turkey
Thats a can of worms. Some like to congregate with their own , some like to be on their own.A smattering of turkish helps especially when shopping and i think it is polite to talk if you can in the local language.It is not nessasary as a lot of turks put us to shame by speaking english.It ultimately is up to you to decide where you want to fit in.
 

dalyansteve

Member
living in turkey
I have noticed that in the last year or so in Dalyan, that if you do speak a reasonable amount of Turkish that the Turks will try and stay in their own language, it used to be they were so desperate to practice their English they would always try and converse in it, making it difficult for us to practice.
Don't forget the English will always gravitate towards each other because of our own culture.
We have many Turkish friends whom we socialise with but there is always a cultural difference, that needs to be understood, they are as interested in our way of life as we are in theirs.
 
living in turkey
I have noticed that in the last year or so in Dalyan, that if you do speak a reasonable amount of Turkish that the Turks will try and stay in their own language, it used to be they were so desperate to practice their English they would always try and converse in it, making it difficult for us to practice.
Don't forget the English will always gravitate towards each other because of our own culture.
We have many Turkish friends whom we socialise with but there is always a cultural difference, that needs to be understood, they are as interested in our way of life as we are in theirs.
Speaking Turkish is obviously helpful, and the more you start speaking the language, even in small amounts, the more you learn and the more confident you become. We deliberately built in a Turkish area and are surrounded by Turkish neighbours who speak little or no english. It was a deliberate choice not to be in a English "home from home" community but that wouldn't suit everyone. At first, it was conversing via dictionaries but four years later its far easier, and as we have learned more Turkish, they have also managed to pick up some english which they are happy about. The cultural differences make life even more interesting, especially at formal times like weddings - and even funerals - where the local population gather en mass. Its quite humbling too to be invited to these personal events, even being the only non-Turks to be included in the 40-car convoy taking the locals boys to the bus stations for their trip to start their 15-months jandarma service, with car horns hooting, Turkish flags flying from the cars and the conscripts being thrown high into the air by their family and friends proud to be going off to serve their country.
 

tinkycarol

5 a day inspiration!
living in turkey
hi everyone,

we have had a villa in ovacik for 4 years and love every minute of it we are seriously considering on moving out there permantley but we do not know anyone within our area who are already permanently there to ask about pros and cons. is the cost of living really as good as with been told? how much is private medical insurance? putting your savings in banks to live off interest all questions we need to ask for us to make our minds up


please help


martin&sharon:

Hi Martin & Sharon

You might want to have a look at a post called "How far will £500 per month go/can you live on £500 a month". I don't know how to do a link but if you put "living on £500 a month" in the search box it should come up (I did it just now to remind myself). Anyway it is a lengthy/ongoing post, 20 pages, and was started in 2007 but it was very active around Feb/Mar 09 with a lot of posts by Samimi who had moved out around that time and was logging every expense. It was very informative and I think medical insurance was touched on by some people plus high fuel bills what with the cold weather at the time.

I think it could be of interest to you. Best of luck whatever your plans.

Carol x
 

MrsP

Jean
living in turkey
Can anyone tell us what are the chances of working in Turkey? I am getting the impression it could be impossible. We are just thinking a little "ticking over" income would be nice. We don't want to start dipping into our savings just yet. Please don't tell me we should stay in England till retirement age, I couldn't bear it!
 

immac

Senior Member Has-Been
living in turkey
The chances of working in Turkey are almost nil. There are exceptions, but it depends on your skills, qualifications and area of work.
Ian
 

MrsP

Jean
living in turkey
The chances of working in Turkey are almost nil. There are exceptions, but it depends on your skills, qualifications and area of work.
Ian
What about just setting up a stall on the promenade selling bits and pieces?
 

Lindacm

Member
living in turkey
Can anyone tell us what are the chances of working in Turkey? I am getting the impression it could be impossible. We are just thinking a little "ticking over" income would be nice. We don't want to start dipping into our savings just yet. Please don't tell me we should stay in England till retirement age, I couldn't bear it!


If you need to work to live here I suggest that you might need to reconsider. Work permits are very difficult to obtain and working without one you could be deported if found out. Not ideal having to worry about "being found out".

Linda
 

Sunny Seasider

Life is so precious
living in turkey
What about just setting up a stall on the promenade selling bits and pieces?

I would imagine you would be stamped on, the rules are so very strict, for those who do get away with it, they are probably working behind the scenes, but on the promenade, very risky. In my opinion, I would not even attempt it. Just chill out and enjoy, Samimi's posts are good advice to read and it she has proved living out there can be done on a budget.
 
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