Saoirse

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Labour going backwards
Watched Starmer on Marr

Clueless

But more importantly very out of key with his deputy on statements she has made re tax, privitisation

More trouble a- brewing
 
Labour going backwards
Watched Starmer on Marr

Clueless

But more importantly very out of key with his deputy on statements she has made re tax, privitisation

More trouble a- brewing
His deputy talks for the unions, no idea who Starmer talks for.
He’s took the Party on with a big stick attitude & in doing so has either pushed out loyal members or they’ve left of their own accord.
Politics is getting worse by the day & not only in the UK.
 

Mushroom

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Labour going backwards
Simple assessment. Starmer is a crap politician.
Which doesn't say much for the party he leads.
 
Labour going backwards
Labour would be hard pressed to go backwards any further than Corbyn & co took them. That's not my assessment, that's what history and the stats tells us all.
Starmer had a task and half on his hands........his first mistake was, taking the job. Second mistake, kicking Corbyn out, FFS the bloke was part of the furniture.
 

mollag

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Labour going backwards
This route, mimicking Tory policies, failed with Brown and Miliband, he wont get the Socialist vote with Capitalist policies however he weasel words and re brands them with a "Labour" rubber stamp , we seem to be effectively a one party state now. :(
 
Labour going backwards
This route, mimicking Tory policies, failed with Brown and Miliband, he wont get the Socialist vote with Capitalist policies however he weasel words and re brands them with a "Labour" rubber stamp , we seem to be effectively a one party state now. :(
I think you're right on the "one Party state" comment. That's unhealthy for us all.
 

Mushroom

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Labour going backwards
We need a sensible, transparent, honest party that puts UK interests first and way ahead of career politics, with policies that the electorate understand without smoke and mirrors, terms and conditions.
Problem is - it not only doesn't exist but might never exist.
 

immac

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Labour going backwards
I followed the latest crisis caused by Angela Rayner with interest. In a speech at the conference centre she referred to Conservatives "...“We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,” she said at the event, before adding that she had “held back a little”."

She decided not to apologise, but to double-down and dig a bigger hole for her boss. So Starmer is trying to do the rounds of interviews about his vision, and all he is asked about is the ranting of his fish-wife deputy. She said "...speaking on Sunday, Rayner defended her comments as being made in the “street language” of her northern working-class roots."

She obviously has a good brain, but politically clueless if she want to get people who voted Conservative to switch to her side. All the headlines are about her, not her boss or his policies. She has made the usual Labour mistake of speaking to the people who already vote for them, rather than the ones they want to get from Conservatives.

Ian

ps one analyst was pointing out, that by the next election, it will be 27 years (not checked) since Labour (Blair - 1997) knocked Conservatives off the governing perch
 
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Akasya

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Labour going backwards
Unfortunately for your clan Ian , many agree with her , Conservatives included , only the media are digging it .
Steve
 

Mushroom

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Labour going backwards
She has attracted the wrong headlines and yes she was speaking to those who already agree with her.
She has failed to understand that the vast majority of those who are true socialists are not in favour of Woke, ECO and BLM getting in the way of proper politics and when she mentions Misogyny, she might be surprised but there are still a lot of blokes from Labour backgrounds who still think that she would be best in the kitchen looking after their dinner.
They don't like female gobshites either. They see it as a male thing.
 

429nufc

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Labour going backwards
They don't like female gobshites either. They see it as a male thing.
Checked as to meaning of "Gobshite" because round here it is used to mean someone with an opinion on everything who doesn't mind letting all the world know it, but not necessarily a bad person. According to dictionary it means a stupid person!

I think Yvette will be grinning to herself, I don't see Angela on the World Stage. It's one thing to please the Conference but another to convert the wavering!
 

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