Camden

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We have set an unfortunate precedent with withdrawal of citizenship .... Wait till we want to deport a Hate Preacher or a Real Terrorist to another country ...( not some stupid young girl ) When the Country we are deporting thinks they will do the same as us and revokes the deportees citizenship and we like the Kurds are left with them.

Was it even equable ? ( and not just based on her Newspaper publicity ) why did it not apply to even a percentage, of the 360 ISIS believed to have returned to the UK already ...
 
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enoch

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It was in the paper's a few years ago France just put them out and paid the poultry fine by the Eu, not like the uk pissing about like they do with the courts.
 

SamSteve21

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London born of Bangoli heritage IS Bride Shamima Begum has won the right to return to the UK to fight the removal of her British Passport.

I think it's the right decision as Londonistan has far more Radical Muslims and Fanatics then Raqqa Syria. So Shamimma will feel more at home
 

Bramidan

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I'm really not sure whether it is a big deal whether she is able to come to the UK to pursue her appeal in person. I am presuming she has high profile advocates acting on her behalf, what is it she would add to the process?
 

Kanga

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I'd rather she was here where she can be supervised and is back with her family, than staying in those disgusting camps and radicalising others, or being further radicalised herself to have more 'ISIS cub' children. What a miserable bloody experience to grow up in one of those camps; no child born deserves it.
 

Camden

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I see Assad wife is being investigated for Terrorism .... I wonder why the Government aren't going to apply equally, what they did to the sixteen year old girl in withdrawing her citizenship ( or wonder why withdrawal of passport hasn't been done before) ... to this wealthy British Born woman who went to Syria and married a man of terror , more so it's now alleged to be an "influential actor" in inciting and encouraging acts of terrorism, .

It seems in her case
"As [she] is a British national it is important that she faces prosecution if the evidence supports the allegation and not merely stripped of her citizenship. This is an important process and it is only right that justice is served before an English court.

as it seems

"We recognise that it would be politically expedient to merely strip the first lady of her citizenship. That will not serve the interests of the hundreds of thousands of civilian victims to the 10-year conflict."

Why is it not important the sixteen old London born girl
.. were its alleged she was involved with ISIS morality police. That it wont serve the victims of ISIS to see justice being done in a British Court ...

 

IbrahimAbi

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She should face prosecution for her part in these atrocities. i am not sure about bringing her back to the UK though.
 

Camden

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What is she guilty of ?
Steve

Not Guilty yet alleged awaiting investigation

The Metropolitan police have opened a preliminary investigation Asma Al-Assad, a UK citizen encouraged terrorism through her public support and in speeches to Syrian armed forces. A Syrian armed Force that terrorized a civilian population by bombing over 600 Hospitals & schools with Chemical weapons , barrel bombs and in some cases Napalm......



Syria: Agony of victims of 'napalm-like' school bombing​

By Ian Pannell
BBC News.

media caption Reporter Ian Pannell and cameraman Darren Conway have returned to Syria to see the progress of some of the victims
Footage of a napalm-like attack on a school in Syria filmed by a team working for Panorama shocked the world. Now the BBC has returned to find out what happened to the children who suffered horrific burns.
We had travelled to Syria to film two British doctors from the UK charity Hand in Hand for Syria providing care to parts of the country where the medical system is barely functioning.
The British medics had stopped off at a hospital in Aleppo Province. It was set up by the charity to provide general medical care, but in a climate of war it is just as likely to be casualties of the conflict who are carried through the door.
Within an hour of being there we received the first sign of what was to come.
A seven-month old baby boy arrived, his pink face was blistered and raw. His father was also burnt and sat helplessly on a stretcher clutching his son as the staff rushed to help.
The British doctors were hearing rumours that there were more cases on the way.
Soon, dozens of people, mostly teenagers, were being rushed in on stretchers with napalm-like burns. Their clothes were burnt, their bodies charred and in some cases their hair had melted.
Their faces were brutally disfigured with huge blisters forming over their bodies. Almost in slow motion they lumbered in; shocked and in pain. The smell of burnt flesh was overpowering.
Within minutes the hospital was overwhelmed. Dr Rola Hallam and Dr Saleyha Ahsam began treating the casualties.
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image captionThe field hospital was overwhelmed by the number of casualties brought in
There were no shrapnel injuries or loss of blood typical of most aerial bombs.
We did not know for sure what the device contained but it caused appalling burns consistent with an incendiary device, containing a substance like napalm or thermite.
The pressure group Human Rights Watch has documented the use of similar bombs elsewhere in Syria.
All of this unravelled in a climate of fear. It happened just days after the chemical attack in the eastern suburbs of Damascus that killed hundreds of people and many were terrified that the same had just happened here.
Doctors ripped open packets of saline fluid and poured the liquid over the victims. The few beds in the emergency room quickly filled up and many of the teenagers were writhing in agony on the floor.
Thick white cream was applied to their bodies to treat the burns, while yet more patients were brought in.
Outside in the hospital courtyard, a water tanker sprayed the crowd so they could clean themselves - terrified that this had been a chemical attack.
Fathers and mothers desperate for news fought to be allowed into the hospital, cursing their president, Bashar al-Assad.
Eyewitnesses described the same thing - a fighter-jet circling overhead, apparently looking for targets. A large crowd had gathered at the school where the incendiary bomb was dropped.
Eighteen-year-old Siham Kanbari had terrible burns to much of her body.
She had been in a maths class when the blast ripped through the window.
One of the youngest victims was 13-year-old Ahmed Darwish.
When he arrived at the hospital he was shaking uncontrollably. The emergency ward was so full he was told to wait in the corridor.
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image captionCasualties had to travel to Turkey for intensive care
Dr Saleyha described the scene.
"Out of all the war zones I have ever been to, today has been by far the worst," she said.
"I have never seen anything like that - the fact that they were children, teenagers, same ages as my nieces and nephews."
The hospital admitted 30 patients that day.
Most had more than 50% burns - which meant their chances of survival were less than half.
The injured needed intensive care therapy but none was available in Aleppo's field hospital.
By dusk the chaos began to subside as patients were rushed across the border to Turkey for treatment. Some died on the way.
"I thought it was never going to end," Dr Rola said. "We lost a gentlemen on transfer to Bab-al-Hawa, he had extensive third degree burns.
"We tried to stabilise him and refer him as soon as possible but we weren't able to rescue him. I've never seen a burn that bad.
"I think his face is going to stay with me for quite a long time."
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image captionChildren were in the school's playground when the bomb landed
Two days after the attack we went to the school.
It had been one of the few to remain open in this part of northern Syria. But when we visited the classrooms were empty.
The smell at the scene and the debris suggest it was an incendiary bomb. It is not a chemical weapon but is classed as a conventional one.
More than 100 countries have banned their use against civilians but Syria has not signed the treaty.
The air at the scene was still thick with the smell of whatever was dropped that day; it is hard to imagine or to describe the horrors of what the pilot did.
The headmaster said he felt helpless. He was too afraid to give his name.
"The worst thing in life is for someone to die before our eyes.
"People burning in front of you. People dying. People running. But where will they run to?
"They're not safe anywhere. This is the fate of the Syrian people."
Ten children died in the attack and many more have been left struggling to survive terrible burns.

'Please let it be over'​

We visited Ahmed, in a Turkish hospital, a few weeks after the incident. Described as a hard working boy with a smiley face, he now has 40% burns to his body.
"I'm in a lot of pain," he said. "I had a fever all last night. I'm in pain on my neck and my shoulder.
"Why bomb us while we are at school. Why?"
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image caption Siham had been in a maths class when the attack happened
When we last saw Siham, in the Aleppo hospital, she was screaming in pain. She is now in a ward alongside Ahmed, in Turkey. She told us the day we visited that her body still feels like it is burning.
She was in her final year of school. Described as one of the smartest in her class she is now suffering with 70% burns.
"Please let it be over now", she said. "We need to find a way out. We've had all we can take."
As the controversy over chemical weapons dies down, the world's attention will once again move on from Syria.
But for those whose lives are being torn apart by war, the suffering continues.
Panorama: Saving Syria's Children, is available in the UK on the BBC iPlayer. It will be broadcast on BBC World News on 5 October at 0910 and 2110 GMT, and on 6 October at 0210 and 1510 GMT.
 
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