Orka6

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Dogs in Dalyan
Had a trip over to dalyan earlier this week and was amazed at th ammount of dogs roaming around in the town centre-snapping and snarling at each other-they seen to be roaming round in packs. even in the cay place nr mosque-are the zabita/belediye looking into the problem-a bit frightning for people walking about
 

RichnKim

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Dogs in Dalyan
We live in Dalyan and spend a lot of time in and around the mosque/tea garden area and very rarely see what you mention is happening.
We were sitting in the tea garden for over an hour today and we had several dogs sitting around us but none were aggressive to each other at any time (as always in our experience).
They do have very minor scraps from time to time but its just a bit of noise, none of them get hurt. There is almost always one that gives in straight away. Its just to say 'I'm the Boss' and that is when a new dog that they haven't seen before comes in to the area.
Also it can be caused by food and the lack of it. If someone regularly feeds a certain dog, it will keep other dogs away from that person when they are going to feed them.
It so nice to watch the dogs in Dalyan, they all know each other, know who the dominant dogs are and they all generally get on so well. There is even a place they have found to sleep, which is sheltered and several dogs of all different sizes sleep there together throughout the day and at night time without incident.
When you ask about whether the Belediye are looking in to it, what they can do is the usual collect, neuter and return program which would calm the more dominant dogs down. It is around this time of year that they collect the dogs and carry out the program so we will have to wait and see, but in the mean time there does not seem to be a significant problem.
What else do you expect the Belediye to do?
People walking about have nothing to fear as the dogs are not interested in people and are certainly not aggressive towards them. They just mind their own business unless you go out of your way to communicate with them, at which time they come over for a bit of attention.
 
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claire1976

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Dogs in Dalyan
We visit Dalyan every year when we stay in Dalaman.We encounter street dogs in both places and have never found them to be aggresive. I have pictures of 2 lovely dogs playing with my 7 year old in Dalaman, they seemed to really enjoy the positive attention!
 

Sunberry

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Dogs in Dalyan
Like RichnKim, I also live in Dalyan, and can only agree with what they have said about the street dogs here. Even friends who are wary of dogs are perfectly happy to sit and enjoy a drink in the cay garden without fear of the dogs which are around because they just don't bother people. The children's play area is just accross from the cay garden too, and none of the children seem worried about them either.
 

pineapple1

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Dogs in Dalyan
Had a trip over to dalyan earlier this week and was amazed at th ammount of dogs roaming around in the town centre-snapping and snarling at each other-they seen to be roaming round in packs. even in the cay place nr mosque-are the zabita/belediye looking into the problem-a bit frightning for people walking about

Who was there first you or the dog's ??? dosen't seem like anyone else as a problem with them , what some people see as frightening , others see as normal behaviour if you understand dogs , ..........Diane
 

ZiaCa'

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Dogs in Dalyan
Whilst there are, unfortunately, a huge number of street dogs in Dalyan (not just in the centre), I haven't seen any being aggressive....although I've heard of a couple of people being bitten.

Some people are afraid of dogs, though - they can't help it. I'm not, but some times it can be a bit daunting when passing on a bicycle you get chased! Sure the dogs are just defending their territory and wouldn't do any harm!
 

RustyDalyan

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Dogs in Dalyan
RichnKim are spot on - it literally is "a dog's life" in Dalyan (while they escape the rumoured annual round-up that is - does that still happen?), from a dog's point of view nothing could be better than having the choice to hang out with your mates, trot to wherever you want to go, sleep when and where you like, in a settled socialised group where all the hierarchies have been established and remain consistent. The behaviour that we interpret as aggressive will almost certainly be play, or the odd spat over a valuable resource such as a tasty morsel, but because the hierarchies are well established it will quickly become clear which dog gets the treat. Dog play behaviour can look like aggressive behaviour, but they know the social rules, unfortunately we don't and it can end in tears if we try to intervene. Contrast Dalyan dog life with that of many UK dogs, stuck on their own in a house for hours while the owner is at work, isolated and bored. Exercised on a lead so they have no choice of route, sniffing targets or chums, meeting strange new dogs most days and unable to establish proper doggy social relations with most dogs they meet.
Obviously from a human perspective it's not that convenient to have packs of dogs running around the community, and as Dalyan life and environment become more structured it seems to be getting less tolerated, but if we are concerned about our dogs’ welfare it can be useful to compare different doggy lifestyles and think about which ones are better for meeting dogs’ needs, especially when they conflict with ours.
As always the proviso of not approaching strange dogs applies: unless you are confident that you can read the signals and judge that it’s safe to say hi, then best not to approach.
Bike chasing is a difficult one – for the dogs with strong “chase moving objects” programming it’s a very enjoyable thing to do!
 

ihutch

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Dogs in Dalyan
Had a trip over to dalyan earlier this week and was amazed at th ammount of dogs roaming around in the town centre-snapping and snarling at each other-they seen to be roaming round in packs. even in the cay place nr mosque-are the zabita/belediye looking into the problem-a bit frightning for people walking about

This isn't the Uk or Europe - leave the dogs alone to live a normal life, unlike in UK. Yes sometimes they snarl - but then sometimes so do people, and yes they roam in packs occassionally - but so do we don't we??? I have been feeding one street dog for the last 11 years and it is the most friendly and nice tempered dog one could wish to meet. They keep away from people if they can, especially Turkish men who can kick out at them. If you treat them right they will do the same for you - just like humans. We don't want their life curtailed and controlled as all life is in England thanks. It is bad enough that with the amount of building people have to walk further to put their cows or goats to pasture and the amount of hens running around is far less than it used to be - don't change Turkey, leave it all alone!
 
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