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I have had to take some slegging from cousins and neighbours-one of whom topped the poll on her first attempt!!!!!
As you well know Sleepy when we were growing up through a mixture of reality and " unionist creative accounting " the breakdown was around 70/30-yesterday our community was behind by 0.2%
Very interesting times ahead and on both Slugger and Radio Ulster all day today the clear message from many in the unionist community was maybe it's time to cut a deal-whilst we are still marginally ahead
As you well know Sleepy when we were growing up through a mixture of reality and " unionist creative accounting " the breakdown was around 70/30-yesterday our community was behind by 0.2%
Very interesting times ahead and on both Slugger and Radio Ulster all day today the clear message from many in the unionist community was maybe it's time to cut a deal-whilst we are still marginally ahead
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I have been saying this for some time that the changing democratics were the game changer but the Dup were ignoring it as there were a lot of happy castle catholics post GFA.
Arlene and Brexit has totally changed that and there is certainly no way they will be able go put the genie back in the box.
The question is whether they are willing to give up enough now and will the Tory hard brexit and the economic impact further enrage nationalist feeling.
Very interesting days ahead particularly if it's back to direct rule.
Arlene and Brexit has totally changed that and there is certainly no way they will be able go put the genie back in the box.
The question is whether they are willing to give up enough now and will the Tory hard brexit and the economic impact further enrage nationalist feeling.
Very interesting days ahead particularly if it's back to direct rule.
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Brexit was a biggy yesterday, definitely brought the mid class in behind SF
Was talking this morning to a mate of Gerry Carroll. He was elected but vote down and took a pasting across the North. He was saying the SF machine was up and running like the old days-he's going door to door with 5/6 comrades, then SF turn into the street-100+ , music going, slick literature, etc.
But crucially Gerry A was back on the street with the usual rockstar following. Tv crews, punters looking selfies, autographs etc and all his entourage. The PBP man said it was simply impossible to compete
Was talking this morning to a mate of Gerry Carroll. He was elected but vote down and took a pasting across the North. He was saying the SF machine was up and running like the old days-he's going door to door with 5/6 comrades, then SF turn into the street-100+ , music going, slick literature, etc.
But crucially Gerry A was back on the street with the usual rockstar following. Tv crews, punters looking selfies, autographs etc and all his entourage. The PBP man said it was simply impossible to compete
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Not knowing the rules in Ireland, what happens now in N.I. does the assembly stay, or does the British Govt take the powers back to the central parliament?
If Sinn Fein is now the majority how does it effect abortion? as wasn't the retired SF leader against ..... and LGBTQ rights
If Sinn Fein is now the majority how does it effect abortion? as wasn't the retired SF leader against ..... and LGBTQ rights
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When it comes generally to minority rights gay marriage etc Republicans in the North want the same forward thinking that seen the rest of the island become the worlds first country to recognise gay marriage
As regards the local administration there will ( in theory) be some horse trading to see if DUP have learnt the lesson that supremacy and inequality are not acceptable-if not there may be a period of rule either solely from London or also with a Dublin input
Brexit and a possible election in the 26 counties complicate the picture even more
As regards the local administration there will ( in theory) be some horse trading to see if DUP have learnt the lesson that supremacy and inequality are not acceptable-if not there may be a period of rule either solely from London or also with a Dublin input
Brexit and a possible election in the 26 counties complicate the picture even more
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Well Magpie with Enda on his way out and the corruption enquiries with still plenty of legs I would not rule out a GE in 2017
Any sort of visible border-hard, soft or middling will push the whole lot over the edge.
The estab parties in the 26 are already softening positions as to whether they would do the unthinkable and go in with SF.
If such an election is on the back of the return of a visible border the traction gained re opposition in border areas could certainly create a situ whereby neither FF nor FG would have a choice!!!
Any sort of visible border-hard, soft or middling will push the whole lot over the edge.
The estab parties in the 26 are already softening positions as to whether they would do the unthinkable and go in with SF.
If such an election is on the back of the return of a visible border the traction gained re opposition in border areas could certainly create a situ whereby neither FF nor FG would have a choice!!!
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Definitely not.
However a return to any visible border may be likely to create mass protests in border areas both legal and otherwise. Should that occur we are in a very different situ
Definitely not.
However a return to any visible border may be likely to create mass protests in border areas both legal and otherwise. Should that occur we are in a very different situ
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You never mentioned thier ex leaders opposition on changing Abortion laws ... is the new leadership of the same mind.....
What I have read about this .....was the real reason Sinn Fein brought about the downfall of this governing body was they felt it was the right time for them to gain power .........normal for any political party ....... but also to put forward thier controversial policy to see more soldiers and security forces in the dock , from the warring times..... Do you think they will press forward with this policy ??? and do they have enough seats to push this through....
What I have read about this .....was the real reason Sinn Fein brought about the downfall of this governing body was they felt it was the right time for them to gain power .........normal for any political party ....... but also to put forward thier controversial policy to see more soldiers and security forces in the dock , from the warring times..... Do you think they will press forward with this policy ??? and do they have enough seats to push this through....
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It's not a matter of putting soldiers in the dock nor even " gaining power"- they were already in power
It's pretty simple stuff. There were agreements made between all sides, crucially including both govts in London and Dublin. Many items which were agreed were not implemented. SFs position is either implement what we all signed up to, or we will not be a part of any administration
As regards abortion whilst there's general agreement on SF policy as regards women's right to chose individual members are allowed to vote as their per their personal beliefs
As regards the soldiers you refer to one of the areas agreed was that there would be enquiries into ALL killings both state and otherwise. The British have welshed on that deal citing national security.
It won't wash-either we are open to all sides as regards who did what, including state agents- or there's no point
It's pretty simple stuff. There were agreements made between all sides, crucially including both govts in London and Dublin. Many items which were agreed were not implemented. SFs position is either implement what we all signed up to, or we will not be a part of any administration
As regards abortion whilst there's general agreement on SF policy as regards women's right to chose individual members are allowed to vote as their per their personal beliefs
As regards the soldiers you refer to one of the areas agreed was that there would be enquiries into ALL killings both state and otherwise. The British have welshed on that deal citing national security.
It won't wash-either we are open to all sides as regards who did what, including state agents- or there's no point
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The piece I read said it was one of a few demands put to the the Central Goverment , before the resignation, suggesting it wasn't/hadn't been agreeded so no agreement ......
And also if they as you said were in power why would it be a demand to the central Goverment, if they had the power why didn't they just apply it.....
so do you think they will press forward ,or implement now they have the majority ....
And also if they as you said were in power why would it be a demand to the central Goverment, if they had the power why didn't they just apply it.....
so do you think they will press forward ,or implement now they have the majority ....
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Yes the piece you read was obviously wrong
At its simplest if all sides lived up to what they signed up to we would not be we are-and add a 471mill " mistake" for good measure
As regards the local administration (what has changed there is no side now has the upper hand/stalemate? You would really need to know our history to know how SO significant that is)-it doesn't have over all power, London does
At its simplest if all sides lived up to what they signed up to we would not be we are-and add a 471mill " mistake" for good measure
As regards the local administration (what has changed there is no side now has the upper hand/stalemate? You would really need to know our history to know how SO significant that is)-it doesn't have over all power, London does
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Hey, looking at the title it is not up to you to say who should read this thread and who not!! Maybe we who want to learn might benefit from it if we were allowed to ask questions!
Hey, looking at the title it is not up to you to say who should read this thread and who not!! Maybe we who want to learn might benefit from it if we were allowed to ask questions!
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