Efesake

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Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
Just googled Sputnik V 😀
Only days before the launch of Korabl-Sputnik 5, the cosmonaut team, which consisted of 20 men, experienced its first fatality. Cosmonaut candidate Valentin Bondarenko was killed in a fire during a training exercise in an oxygen-rich isolation chamber.[5] It's not clear whether other cosmonauts were told of his death; the media didn't learn of Bondarenko's death - or even of his existence - until many years later, in 1986.[7]
 
Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
Hell of a verify of cost and storage. I read somewhere Oxford had only give results with one dose and the immunity went up with 2 doses to 94 percent.

The true cost of these vaccines per country has yet to be published (if ever) but rest assured it’s going to be mega. Governments have had to back a few of them for fear of one succeeding that they haven’t got on their order books. It’s not money wasted IMO, more of a “just in case”.
I personally think the formula for the vaccine should be given freely to every country.....call it PROPER foreign aid.
 

jearden

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Hell of a verify of cost and storage. I read somewhere Oxford had only give results with one dose and the immunity went up with 2 doses to 94 percent.

Oxford /AstraZeneca is a 2 dose vaccine with phase3 trial results better in the group given a half first dose. It’s argued there are good reasons why the immune system might respond better to a small dose followed by a larger dose so they are conducting further trials to establish the best regime.

The chart has an error in pricing. It should be the Moderna vaccine at $74 and Pfizer at $39. Moderna is the USA vaccine heavily funded by the state and the one they are desperate to approve before any other. Even at $74 it will not be available in quantity outside the USA until their home demand has been met.
 

Camden

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Shows the Type of vaccine eg M-RNA.. efficacy % , needed dose, Temp held and cost ...Russian,Chinese at the bottom...

I thought with the Oxford only one dose needed ???


In RNA-based vaccines, instead of the entire virus, a critical part of the RNA chain carrying genetic information is injected into the body.

By using gene technology in viral vector vaccines, some of the genetic material carried by the virus is inserted into another virus and injected into the body.




Turkey, the Covidien-19 vaccine produced by Sinovac China-based company has agreed to purchase 50 million doses. In addition, the BioNtech / Pfizer vaccine will only be ordered for 1 million doses for now.

The vaccines will be administered in two doses, 3-4 weeks apart, to ensure adequate immunity in the body. The reason for this is to increase the amount of antibody, which decreased after the administration of the first dose, above a certain level with the second dose.


https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2020/sagli...in-fiyatlari-etkinlik-orani-farklari-6154509/


I think there would be a variance in costs depending on the Country. The Turkish link gave their thoughts on price ...it said ..

Double Dose Price

Another difference between vaccinations is their cost. The vaccine developed by Oxford and Astrazeneca has made the cheapest pricing. However, these prices may vary depending on the vaccine policies of the countries and the costs that will arise with transportation.

PS ...you could well be right jearden , Turkish site and link may have it wrong...
 
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Tenpin

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As China nears a coronavirus vaccine, bribery cloud hangs over drugmaker Sinovac

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b-9c21-3cc501d0981f_story.html?outputType=amp

Extract:
Chinese coronavirus-vaccine maker Sinovac Biotech is good at getting its products to market. It was first to begin clinical trials of a SARS vaccine in 2003 and first to bring a swine flu vaccine to consumers in 2009.

Its CEO was also bribing China’s drug regulator for vaccine approvals during that time, court records show.

Sinovac is now seeking to supply its coronavirus vaccine to developing nations, from Brazil to Turkey to Indonesia. While graft and weak transparency have long plagued China’s pharmaceutical industry, seldom has the reliability of a single drug vendor from the country mattered this much to the rest of the world.
 

jearden

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In the UK we’re pinning a lot of hope on the Oxford vaccine which can be distributed and administered in the same way as flu vaccine.
The agreement between AstraZeneca and Oxford University is based on a vaccine sold ‘’not for profit’’ during the course of the pandemic, but that's a pretty vague contract clause and defining when the pandemic is over and pricing after that date appears to be at the discretion of AstraZeneca.
 

immac

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Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
From 24Matins:

Is this the one Turkey is going for?

"Peru has temporarily suspended clinical trials of a Covid vaccine made by Chinese drug giant Sinopharm after detecting neurological problems in one of its test volunteers.
The National Institute of Health said Friday that it had decided to interrupt the trial after a volunteer had difficulty moving their arms, according to local media."

https://www.24matins.uk/topnews/int...ine-258495?utm_source=opera&utm_campaign=news

Ian

ps. By Reuters Staff ( Sept. 16th )

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey began final Phase III trials of an experimental Chinese coronavirus vaccine on Wednesday, the health minister said.

“The first administration of the Sinovac vaccine was started with three healthcare workers at Hacettepe University, who volunteered to take part in the trials,” Fahrettin Koca told a news conference.

The vaccine will be administered to between 1,200 and 1,300 health workers over 10 days and a second dose will be given 14 days after the first, broadcasters CNN Turk and Haberturk reported earlier.
 
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Just heard on the news that the vaccine now being used in the UK will be used in the US from Monday, I wonder if Turkey has orders in? From what I’ve read most Governments have orders with all the leading hopefuls.
 

enoch

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From 24Matins:

Is this the one Turkey is going for?

"Peru has temporarily suspended clinical trials of a Covid vaccine made by Chinese drug giant Sinopharm after detecting neurological problems in one of its test volunteers.
The National Institute of Health said Friday that it had decided to interrupt the trial after a volunteer had difficulty moving their arms, according to local media."

https://www.24matins.uk/topnews/int...ine-258495?utm_source=opera&utm_campaign=news

Ian

ps. By Reuters Staff ( Sept. 16th )

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey began final Phase III trials of an experimental Chinese coronavirus vaccine on Wednesday, the health minister said.

“The first administration of the Sinovac vaccine was started with three healthcare workers at Hacettepe University, who volunteered to take part in the trials,” Fahrettin Koca told a news conference.

The vaccine will be administered to between 1,200 and 1,300 health workers over 10 days and a second dose will be given 14 days after the first, broadcasters CNN Turk and Haberturk reported earlier.

I think that's the one they have ordered 1 million doses. I think they are wanting to start vaccinating next week? Some doses landed 12 days ago. For medical staff.
 

Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
Phase 2 trial for local vaccine set for December 25

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/phase-2-trial-for-local-vaccine-set-for-december-25-160797

The phase two trials of the Turkish-made COVID-19 vaccine will begin on Dec. 25, Health Minister Fahrettin Koca has announced.

“In parallel with the world, 16 different vaccine studies are carried out in our country. One of them has completed the pre-clinical period and started human trials. Phase two study will begin on Dec. 25,” Koca told lawmakers during the 2021 budget debate in parliament on Dec. 12.

Koca said the vaccine’s production for phase two started on Dec. 9.

“Apart from our vaccination studies, we are also to access safe and efficient vaccines made elsewhere in the world,” he said.

“I hope we will make our domestic COVID-19 vaccine by April,” he said.

The ERUCOV-VAC vaccine is being developed at the Erciyes University in the Central Anatolian province of Kayseri with support from Turkey’s Institutes of Health Administration (TÜSEB).

Turkey is planning to roll out its massive vaccination program with the injections being developed by China at the end of this year. The jabs will be administered to some 60 million people, except for pregnant women and those under the age of 18 and who have recovered from the virus within the past six months.

The vaccination will not be mandatory.

Some 52.4 percent of the public said they would get vaccinated, a survey by polling company Optimar found.

A little more than 39 percent of the participants in the survey said they were not willing to take part in the vaccination since they do not know the long-term effects of the injection, while another 8.4 percent outright rejected the COVID-19 jab because they are against any kind of vaccine.

Some 85 percent of the public think COVID-19 poses a serious threat, but only 13.4 percent think otherwise, the survey also found.
 

immac

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From Full Fact Check site, concerning posts alleging DNA interference by vaccines:

" A Facebook post shared thousands of times has claimed that “the new vaccine for Covid-19 will be the first of its kind EVER. It will be an mRNA vaccine which will literally alter your DNA. It will wrap itself into your system. You will essentially become a genetically modified human being.”

This is partially incorrect.

It is true that mRNA vaccines are being developed to combat Covid-19, along with numerous other types of vaccines. There is not one “Covid-19” vaccine, as suggested by the post, lots of countries and lots of laboratories are attempting to develop a vaccine to combat the virus.

Of the six vaccines the World Health Organisation had identified on 13 August as being furthest along in clinical trials, two were mRNA vaccines.

It’s also true that mRNA vaccines are very novel, and if one were to be approved for human use for Covid-19, it would be the first of its kind.

However, the post incorrectly describes how mRNA vaccines work. mRNA vaccines work by introducing a molecule into the body which instructs cells to build a disease-specific antigen. The antigen is then recognised by the immune system which produces antibodies to fight the real thing.

It doesn’t change the body’s DNA or “wrap” itself. mRNA vaccines are generally viewed positively as they are cheap, and don’t involve using part of a virus-like some traditional vaccines."

https://fullfact.org/health/mrna-covid-vaccine/

Ian
 

yalimart

The Carnwath Massive
Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
From Full Fact Check site, concerning posts alleging DNA interference by vaccines:

" A Facebook post shared thousands of times has claimed that “the new vaccine for Covid-19 will be the first of its kind EVER. It will be an mRNA vaccine which will literally alter your DNA. It will wrap itself into your system. You will essentially become a genetically modified human being.”

This is partially incorrect.

It is true that mRNA vaccines are being developed to combat Covid-19, along with numerous other types of vaccines. There is not one “Covid-19” vaccine, as suggested by the post, lots of countries and lots of laboratories are attempting to develop a vaccine to combat the virus.

Of the six vaccines the World Health Organisation had identified on 13 August as being furthest along in clinical trials, two were mRNA vaccines.

It’s also true that mRNA vaccines are very novel, and if one were to be approved for human use for Covid-19, it would be the first of its kind.

However, the post incorrectly describes how mRNA vaccines work. mRNA vaccines work by introducing a molecule into the body which instructs cells to build a disease-specific antigen. The antigen is then recognised by the immune system which produces antibodies to fight the real thing.

It doesn’t change the body’s DNA or “wrap” itself. mRNA vaccines are generally viewed positively as they are cheap, and don’t involve using part of a virus-like some traditional vaccines."

https://fullfact.org/health/mrna-covid-vaccine/

Ian

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immac

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There is some discussion about the effectiveness of the Chinese vaccination. It is difficult to know which way to go, and what the options are in Turkey.

From Duvar:

"The Brazilian Butantan Institute initially said that the vaccine was more than 75 percent effective, only to then discredit themselves by revealing they hadn't included asymptomatic patients in the statistics.

The Brazilian effectiveness score hence dwindled down to a mere 50.38 percent, barely cutting the 50-percent threshold needed to get approval.

Essentially, Brazilian data shows that your chances of getting COVID-19 if you receive Sinovac's treatment are a little over 49 percent, said Prof. Mustafa Cankurtaran, geriatrics department head at Ankara's Hacettepe University.

"Brazil said that the vaccine's protection rate was 50.38 percent but it protects an average infection by 78 percent, and prevents death 100 percent. It just protects you from infection 50 percent of the time.""


Ian
 

immac

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Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
Has anyone in Turkey had the vaccine jab? Do they invite you for the jab, or do you apply? Who are they doing (age) now?

ıan
 

IbrahimAbi

Grey wisdom
Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
There was an announcement on our village tannoy system yesterday. here they are inviting people over 70 to book an appointment at the local health centre.
 
Covid-19 vaccine for Turkey
As of yesterday people over 65 could register to get it, and their spouses if they were over 60. As Ibrahim said you need to book an appointment at your local family health centre. If you have a history of allergies they recommend you make an appointment at your nearest hospital. You have to make the appointment online using either the MHRS or E-nabiz websites. If your Turkish is good you can ring 182.
 

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