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Jaycey
African Refugee
Brexit going forward
The ir/responsibility of Brexiters
The loud disputes between the UK and the EU of just a few weeks ago over the Northern Ireland Protocol (NIP) have quietened and there has still been no public response from the EU to the UK’s new roadmap for its implementation (though there are rumours of “disappointment”[£]). Nor, so far as I know, has there been any public indication of what its contents are.
As per my post last week, I think this is only a lull: the Brexit government’s aversion to the Protocol is now very deep-rooted. That is the Protocol which is part of the Withdrawal Agreement it negotiated, claimed as a triumph, campaigned on in the 2019 election, and signed with the EU only a little over a year ago. It is also the Protocol which has as its core provision a permanent sea border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a fact mendaciously denied by government ministers, up to and including Boris Johnson.
This provision in turn arises from Brexit, or more accurately from hard Brexit. The facts here are so basic and so simple that they should not require repeating, but as events unfold there is perhaps a danger of them being forgotten. Hard Brexit did not flow automatically from the 2016 Referendum but was the interpretation chosen by successive British governments. It meant choosing to leave the single market and customs union, the institutions that prevent economic borders between their members. That meant choosing to create the need for an economic border with the EU and, as regards Northern Ireland, there is no politically acceptable place to put that border. Neither Brexit nor hard Brexit were the choices of the EU, they were not the choices of Ireland, and they were not the choices of the people of Northern Ireland.
Choices have consequences
The decision to enact Brexit as hard Brexit is also the main reason for the myriad of emerging economic consequences. It is difficult to keep up with the daily reports of the damage that Brexit is doing. As I wrote in my previous post, these are ‘micro-damages’ taken as separate stories, but in aggregate they suggest an alarming degradation of businesses and livelihoods. This week’s crop ranges from delays, barriers and charges faced by independent garages getting parts, small-scale antiques dealers, and chocolate makers. As ever, the burgeoning 'Kelemen Archive' is an invaluable record of the astonishing scale of the damage. One potentially important development this week is that the Labour Party has (£), really for the first time, pushed the government hard on the economic effects of the trade deal. It remains to be seen if this is the start of a sustained strategy or a passing moment.
The ir/responsibility of Brexiters
The loud disputes between the UK and the EU of just a few weeks ago over the Northern Ireland Protocol (NIP) have quietened and there has still been no public response from the EU to the UK’s new roadmap for its implementation (though there are rumours of “disappointment”[£]). Nor, so far as I know, has there been any public indication of what its contents are.
As per my post last week, I think this is only a lull: the Brexit government’s aversion to the Protocol is now very deep-rooted. That is the Protocol which is part of the Withdrawal Agreement it negotiated, claimed as a triumph, campaigned on in the 2019 election, and signed with the EU only a little over a year ago. It is also the Protocol which has as its core provision a permanent sea border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a fact mendaciously denied by government ministers, up to and including Boris Johnson.
This provision in turn arises from Brexit, or more accurately from hard Brexit. The facts here are so basic and so simple that they should not require repeating, but as events unfold there is perhaps a danger of them being forgotten. Hard Brexit did not flow automatically from the 2016 Referendum but was the interpretation chosen by successive British governments. It meant choosing to leave the single market and customs union, the institutions that prevent economic borders between their members. That meant choosing to create the need for an economic border with the EU and, as regards Northern Ireland, there is no politically acceptable place to put that border. Neither Brexit nor hard Brexit were the choices of the EU, they were not the choices of Ireland, and they were not the choices of the people of Northern Ireland.
Choices have consequences
The decision to enact Brexit as hard Brexit is also the main reason for the myriad of emerging economic consequences. It is difficult to keep up with the daily reports of the damage that Brexit is doing. As I wrote in my previous post, these are ‘micro-damages’ taken as separate stories, but in aggregate they suggest an alarming degradation of businesses and livelihoods. This week’s crop ranges from delays, barriers and charges faced by independent garages getting parts, small-scale antiques dealers, and chocolate makers. As ever, the burgeoning 'Kelemen Archive' is an invaluable record of the astonishing scale of the damage. One potentially important development this week is that the Labour Party has (£), really for the first time, pushed the government hard on the economic effects of the trade deal. It remains to be seen if this is the start of a sustained strategy or a passing moment.
yalimart
The Carnwath Massive
Brexit going forward
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Brexit Bites the Falkland Islands’ Calamari – Byline Times
Local officials are considering breaking ranks with the UK Government and asking the EU for help, reports David Hencke
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SLEEPY
Member
Brexit going forward
One trillion ..for Blue Passports and Happy Fish !
www.independent.co.uk
Banks and insurers move £1 trillion of assets out of UK due to Brexit
‘We are only at the end of the beginning of Brexit,’ report says
Brexit going forward
A trivial sum to pay for the massive benefits to the UK which 35pluschips will now outline in some detail.
Over to you 35pluschips..........
35pluschips?
HELLO ????
ANYTHING AT ALL?
We won you lost get over it????? WTF kind of answer to a serious question is that.
(A quick paraphrase of the follow on posts
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One trillion ..for Blue Passports and Happy Fish !
Banks and insurers move £1 trillion of assets out of UK due to Brexit
‘We are only at the end of the beginning of Brexit,’ report says
A trivial sum to pay for the massive benefits to the UK which 35pluschips will now outline in some detail.
Over to you 35pluschips..........
35pluschips?
HELLO ????
ANYTHING AT ALL?
We won you lost get over it????? WTF kind of answer to a serious question is that.
(A quick paraphrase of the follow on posts
)
immac
Senior Member Has-Been
Brexit going forward
From CityAM:
"UK-France trade bounced back to close to pre-pandemic levels in March, raising hopes that the impact of Britain’s departure from the EU might not be as dramatic as feared.
Data from French customs officials showed that after a plunge in January, imports from the UK rose to 107 per cent of pre-Covid levels last month, with exports at 96 per cent."
"Despite some disruption at customs chokepoints at the beginning of the year, trade between the EU and its former member has continued relatively incident-free since January."
Not all good news, of course - throw a bone to the UK haters looking for bad news: "German exports to the United Kingdom fell by 12.2 per cent on the year in February and imports slumped 26.9 per cent, the German Federal Statistics Office said. Germany is the UK’s biggest trading partner"
Ian
"UK-France trade bounced back to close to pre-pandemic levels in March, raising hopes that the impact of Britain’s departure from the EU might not be as dramatic as feared.
Data from French customs officials showed that after a plunge in January, imports from the UK rose to 107 per cent of pre-Covid levels last month, with exports at 96 per cent."
"Despite some disruption at customs chokepoints at the beginning of the year, trade between the EU and its former member has continued relatively incident-free since January."
Not all good news, of course - throw a bone to the UK haters looking for bad news: "German exports to the United Kingdom fell by 12.2 per cent on the year in February and imports slumped 26.9 per cent, the German Federal Statistics Office said. Germany is the UK’s biggest trading partner"
Ian
Jaycey
African Refugee
Brexit going forward
Myself I find the whole concept of Brexit contrary to UK’s best interests but I don’t hate the UK.
Why, when someone calls out Brexit for the folly that it is, do you label them as UK haters? IMO anyone opposing Brexit is a patriot.
Myself I find the whole concept of Brexit contrary to UK’s best interests but I don’t hate the UK.
Brexit going forward
A stat that has to be seen in the light of the post lockdown spending bubble and the restock surge. But still encouraging.
Sadly the bigger picture is still very bleak and many small buisneses no longer import or export between the UK and the EU due to the red tape and associated costs
So not good news for the EU haters who seem to be saying" look its almost as good as before Brexit" whilst ignoring the billions lost and the losses of freedom and protection to the UK citizens and the fact we are not interested in "almost as good", we want to see the benifits that justifie our massive losses.
A stat that has to be seen in the light of the post lockdown spending bubble and the restock surge. But still encouraging.
Sadly the bigger picture is still very bleak and many small buisneses no longer import or export between the UK and the EU due to the red tape and associated costs
Brexit export EU costs a 'nasty shock' for small business owners
Business owners voice "genuine fears" that new EU costs will put off European customers.
www.bbc.co.uk
So not good news for the EU haters who seem to be saying" look its almost as good as before Brexit" whilst ignoring the billions lost and the losses of freedom and protection to the UK citizens and the fact we are not interested in "almost as good", we want to see the benifits that justifie our massive losses.
immac
Senior Member Has-Been
Tenpin
The Yorkshireman
Brexit going forward
The quoted article is from January.........Why do remoaners still quote old news articles to justify their, so called, superior intellectual decision.
A stat that has to be seen in the light of the post lockdown spending bubble and the restock surge. But still encouraging.
Sadly the bigger picture is still very bleak and many small buisneses no longer import or export between the UK and the EU due to the red tape and associated costs
Brexit export EU costs a 'nasty shock' for small business owners
Business owners voice "genuine fears" that new EU costs will put off European customers.www.bbc.co.uk
So not good news for the EU haters who seem to be saying" look its almost as good as before Brexit" whilst ignoring the billions lost and the losses of freedom and protection to the UK citizens and the fact we are not interested in "almost as good", we want to see the benifits that justifie our massive losses.
The quoted article is from January.........Why do remoaners still quote old news articles to justify their, so called, superior intellectual decision.
Camden
Member
Brexit going forward
Why,.... has the problems since January improved ? its reported many have given up.. closed ?
We wouldn't know what's happening from Brexiteers , as they seem coyly reticent in letting us know of any of the benefits of Brexit , or even which of the Brexit promises have been fulfilled.
As up to 3 weeks approx it didn't seem to be improving much, with many giving up. So do Brexiteers need people critical of Brexit to live stream it "moment by moment" before the scales are shed from their eyes ?
So has their conditions improved since January ? ... up until three week ago NO with some giving up ....
, Mar 29, 2021
Many small UK exporters giving up on EU due to Brexit
Why,.... has the problems since January improved ? its reported many have given up.. closed ?
We wouldn't know what's happening from Brexiteers , as they seem coyly reticent in letting us know of any of the benefits of Brexit , or even which of the Brexit promises have been fulfilled.
As up to 3 weeks approx it didn't seem to be improving much, with many giving up. So do Brexiteers need people critical of Brexit to live stream it "moment by moment" before the scales are shed from their eyes ?
So has their conditions improved since January ? ... up until three week ago NO with some giving up ....
, Mar 29, 2021
Many small UK exporters giving up on EU due to Brexit
Tenpin
The Yorkshireman
Brexit going forward
Has the problem since January changed.........Read Immacs post.
You're sounding like Jaycey 2.0 with the 'Benefits of Brexit' statement.
Will you be asking that in every response to every post for the next few years as Jaycey does?
It's only been 4 month and a Pandemic got in the way.
3 weeks ago......Read Immacs post to get an up-to-date reference.
What's required is the pandemic out of the way to see a true picture of exports/ imports between countries.
Has the problem since January changed.........Read Immacs post.
You're sounding like Jaycey 2.0 with the 'Benefits of Brexit' statement.
Will you be asking that in every response to every post for the next few years as Jaycey does?
It's only been 4 month and a Pandemic got in the way.
3 weeks ago......Read Immacs post to get an up-to-date reference.
What's required is the pandemic out of the way to see a true picture of exports/ imports between countries.
Jaycey
African Refugee
Brexit going forward
So why don't you tell us of the Brexit benefits and then we can stop asking.
Brexit going forward
Yes January 2021? Just over three months ago???????
OK How about this from 1 hour ago?? Or is this old news as well
Yes January 2021? Just over three months ago???????
OK How about this from 1 hour ago?? Or is this old news as well
35pluschips
Member
Brexit going forward
Let’s once again witness EU unity.
www.politico.eu
Wouldn’t it be a better idea to see whose willing before the idea is made public?
Europe’s strategic long-shot: More warships in the Indo-Pacific
Naval ambitions come as part of EU’s strategy to extend its Asian reach and counter the rise of China.
Wouldn’t it be a better idea to see whose willing before the idea is made public?
Camden
Member
Brexit going forward
I did read Immac's post about trade coming back . but no mention of any change to the Problem, ... of increased costs or less paperwork ? the actual complaint .... Nor did it help the companies in my linked article only three weeks ago that gave up trading with Europe due to the problem ... or don't Brexiteers care about them ?
If I sound like Jaycey and others ,it's because the question has never been answered ???? .... If Brexit had fulfilled the promises made. Brexiteers wouldn't hesitate in gloating to the people critical of Brexit, saying "we told you so" .... shouting it from the rooftops ... telling us all on the benefits, and which of the promises given were actually fulfilled ... what is there from them .... Just Silence ... tumble weed rolling down the street ........... hence the broken record ...in asking ..... we would like answers on what was promised to us ....
ps forgot they did tell us about the shiny blue passport ... and happy fish ...unfortunately not fishermen that catch them ....
British bike exporters Frog and Brompton are counting the costs of an eleventh hour Brexit deal with exports suffering and price increases imminent, according to reports in the press over the past week
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Speaking to Wales Online over the weekend, Frog Bikes’ co-founder Jerry Lawson said “I can’t see any positives,” adding that costs directly attributable to the new trading conditions have in the first two months of the year already “wiped out our profit for last year”.
For Frog overseas trade is important, despite a strengthening domestic market. Lawson attributed 47% of the manufacturer’s trade to exports into the EU, a figure he expects to decline in the face of mounting concern from customers exported to.
“Unless we find a workable solution to the barriers, the non-trade barriers, we can see that diminishing because we will lose these stores. And we know that because we talk directly with the stores. And when we have lots of stores in these markets, and they’re all feeling the pain, it has a risk for our business. And the challenge then is, if we lose those sales where will we make it up?” he told the Welsh news portal.
It has been suggested that EU stores may have to absorb a 2% to 3% margin cut in order to maintain the value to the consumer.
Price aside, the additional volume and complexity of logistics paperwork has frustrated Lawson’s business.
“Spanish stores are being charged 60 euros per consignment. They might be charged a commission or finance fee by the courier. So, they can get the import VAT back but they can’t get the consignment fee, and they can’t get the commission fee or finance fee that is charged.”
“So, if we only send three bikes to them, that works out at about a 50 euros increase to the consumer per bike. And that then means it’s a real barrier.”
cyclingindustry.news
I did read Immac's post about trade coming back . but no mention of any change to the Problem, ... of increased costs or less paperwork ? the actual complaint .... Nor did it help the companies in my linked article only three weeks ago that gave up trading with Europe due to the problem ... or don't Brexiteers care about them ?
If I sound like Jaycey and others ,it's because the question has never been answered ???? .... If Brexit had fulfilled the promises made. Brexiteers wouldn't hesitate in gloating to the people critical of Brexit, saying "we told you so" .... shouting it from the rooftops ... telling us all on the benefits, and which of the promises given were actually fulfilled ... what is there from them .... Just Silence ... tumble weed rolling down the street ........... hence the broken record ...in asking ..... we would like answers on what was promised to us ....
ps forgot they did tell us about the shiny blue passport ... and happy fish ...unfortunately not fishermen that catch them ....
Brexit begins to weigh heavy on Brit bike exporters
19 April, 2021 Mark SuttonBritish bike exporters Frog and Brompton are counting the costs of an eleventh hour Brexit deal with exports suffering and price increases imminent, according to reports in the press over the past week
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Speaking to Wales Online over the weekend, Frog Bikes’ co-founder Jerry Lawson said “I can’t see any positives,” adding that costs directly attributable to the new trading conditions have in the first two months of the year already “wiped out our profit for last year”.
For Frog overseas trade is important, despite a strengthening domestic market. Lawson attributed 47% of the manufacturer’s trade to exports into the EU, a figure he expects to decline in the face of mounting concern from customers exported to.
“Unless we find a workable solution to the barriers, the non-trade barriers, we can see that diminishing because we will lose these stores. And we know that because we talk directly with the stores. And when we have lots of stores in these markets, and they’re all feeling the pain, it has a risk for our business. And the challenge then is, if we lose those sales where will we make it up?” he told the Welsh news portal.
It has been suggested that EU stores may have to absorb a 2% to 3% margin cut in order to maintain the value to the consumer.
Price aside, the additional volume and complexity of logistics paperwork has frustrated Lawson’s business.
“Spanish stores are being charged 60 euros per consignment. They might be charged a commission or finance fee by the courier. So, they can get the import VAT back but they can’t get the consignment fee, and they can’t get the commission fee or finance fee that is charged.”
“So, if we only send three bikes to them, that works out at about a 50 euros increase to the consumer per bike. And that then means it’s a real barrier.”
Brexit begins to weigh heavy on Brit bike exporters
British bike exporters are counting the costs of an eleventh hour Brexit deal with exports suffering and price increases imminent.
cyclingindustry.news
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35pluschips
Member
Jaycey
African Refugee
Brexit going forward
That makes perfect sense as you’d have to surrender those lovely shiny black passports – black is much more appropriate to your situation than red or blue.
That makes perfect sense as you’d have to surrender those lovely shiny black passports – black is much more appropriate to your situation than red or blue.
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