Brexit going forward
Is the disruption in European airports as bad as in the UK?

But even stranger that Brexiteers seem unable to list the many beneficial effects of Brexit to the UK.
If your flight is cancelled then it’s cancelled, regardless of what airport you’re at. It’s the reason that’s in question. Every airport across Europe that’s faced disruption has blamed staff shortages or strikes, not Brexit. Here for some reason it’s just Brexit and nothing else.
Benefits? Well my life hasn’t changed since leaving the EU.
 

Jaycey

African Refugee
Top Poster Of Month
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Which does nothing to answer my question.
Maybe one of our more gifted brethren can throw some light.
But nice to hear you're all right Jack while hundreds of people have lost employment due to Brexit.
 
Brexit going forward
Which does nothing to answer my question.
Maybe one of our more gifted brethren can throw some light.
But nice to hear you're all right Jack while hundreds of people have lost employment due to Brexit.
Who did you “hear” that from?
 

Jaycey

African Refugee
Top Poster Of Month
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Who did you “hear” that from?
From our more gifted TLF members - you really should read member's posts even if they don't agree with you own PoV.
You might start with Saoirse' Post #4 on the Nonsense Questions thread - not difficult to join the dots even for yourself.
Do you really doubt that no UK jobs have been lost due to Brexit?
But yet again you 'answer' a question with a question!
 
Brexit going forward
From our more gifted TLF members - you really should read member's posts even if they don't agree with you own PoV.
You might start with Saoirse' Post #4 on the Nonsense Questions thread - not difficult to join the dots even for yourself.
Do you really doubt that no UK jobs have been lost due to Brexit?
But yet again you 'answer' a question with a question!
Well reports are, unemployment figures in the UK are down.
"Nonsense Questions thread", I think I'll leave that for others to read and post on.
 

Camden

Member
Brexit going forward
Is the disruption in European airports as bad as in the UK?

But even stranger that Brexiteers seem unable to list the many beneficial effects of Brexit to the UK.

They would be better to visit the new museum to get some idea... :) money for it's opening came from a Tory Donor

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Tenpin

The Yorkshireman
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Another airport issue to blame Brexit for.......oh wait, maybe not......it'll just be the irish snow white dwarf that'll blame Brexit.

Thousands of flights delayed and canceled on busy July 4th travel weekend​



Extract:
Travelers are returning to airports in record pre-pandemic numbers this July Fourth holiday weekend but continue to face thousands of flight delays and cancellations, data shows.

The Transportation Security Administration screened 2,490,490 passengers at airport security checkpoints Friday — the most since Feb. 11, 2020, when it screened more than 2.5 million passengers, agency spokesperson Lisa Farbstein tweeted Saturday.

The same day, 464 U.S. domestic and international flights were canceled and more than 6,600 were delayed, according to the flight tracker FlightAware, which noted that they were 28.8% of scheduled flights overall.

More than 930 flights within, into or out of the U.S. were delayed Sunday morning, and more than 200 were canceled, according to FlightAware. New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport and Chicago O'Hare International Airport had the highest rates of delays and cancellations.

Fifty-three flights within into, or out of the U.S. had already been canceled for the Fourth of July as of Sunday morning, according to FlightAware.

Sunday's cancellations followed Saturday's 5,893 delays and 655 cancellations within, into or out of the U.S.

The July Fourth weekend flight cancellations and delays also follow those of Juneteenth and Father's Day weekend, which included the busiest air travel day of the year before Friday and had more than 3,300 flight cancellations from Friday to Monday, and Memorial Day weekend, when about 2,700 flights were canceled.

Staffing shortages, and a pilot shortage in particular, have led some airlines to pre-emptively cut thousands of flights for the summer season.

Airline executives have blamed understaffing at the Federal Aviation Administration for flight cancellations and delays. The FAA disputed the claim in a statement.
 

Camden

Member
Brexit going forward
Another airport issue to blame Brexit for.......oh wait, maybe not......it'll just be the irish snow white dwarf that'll blame Brexit.

Are you sure you are allowed to call your fellow Irish Mod Saoirse a snow white dwarf :ROFLMAO: ? ... I think leprechaun is the appropriate woke definition. :)

I personally would defend Saoirse's lack of height, its only his attitude and mind that is dwarfed ... :ROFLMAO:

Tenpin, it wasn't only O'leary and Ryan Air that blamed Brexit though was it ?

but also Johan Lundgren, chief executive of easyJet,


It was Wizz AIR

JET2

And that actual Recruitment Companies

Are all these Trade Professionals Wrong ??? or a Govt, and their apologists, on being blamed just deflecting with a whataboutism ???



 
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esb1841

Member
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Are you sure you are allowed to call your fellow Irish Mod Saoirse a dwarf :ROFLMAO: ? ... I think leprechaun is the appropriate woke definition. :)

I personally would defend Saoirse's lack of height, its only his attitude and mind that is dwarfed ... :ROFLMAO:

Tenpin, it wasn't only O'leary and Ryan Air that blamed Brexit though was it ?

but also Johan Lundgren, chief executive of easyJet,


It was Wizz AIR

JET2

And that actual Recruitment Companies

Are all these Trade Professionals Wrong ??? or a Govt, and their apologists, on being blamed just deflecting with a whataboutism ???



Here is a Recruitment CEO viewpoint and the same applies for all staff shortages all over Europe and the US
Danny Brooks, founder and chief executive of Virtual Human Resources, said staff have “gone elsewhere” because of redundancies, the end of the furlough scheme in September 2021, work-life issues, and the “boom-bust” cycles of aviation – and they have found better jobs in other sectors or retired.

“The problems are compounded by the fact that we have got Brexit in the mix,” he said.

“The UK aviation sector has quite a high proportion of migrant workers from Europe who have gone to Amazon or other organisations or gone back home. They can’t come back now very easily.”
 
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Are you sure you are allowed to call your fellow Irish Mod Saoirse a snow white dwarf :ROFLMAO: ? ... I think leprechaun is the appropriate woke definition. :)

I personally would defend Saoirse's lack of height, its only his attitude and mind that is dwarfed ... :ROFLMAO:

Tenpin, it wasn't only O'leary and Ryan Air that blamed Brexit though was it ?

but also Johan Lundgren, chief executive of easyJet,


It was Wizz AIR

JET2

And that actual Recruitment Companies

Are all these Trade Professionals Wrong ??? or a Govt, and their apologists, on being blamed just deflecting with a whataboutism ???



When do companies ever blame themselves for anything?
 

esb1841

Member
Brexit going forward

Lufthansa cancels 2.000 more flights, expects disruption until 2023​

Chaotic scenes expected at airports across Europe until 2023​

Lufthansa is not alone in cancelling flights this summer season to try to combat the crisis that is gripping the air travel industry. Its subsidiary companies Eurowings and SWISS have also been forced to cancel flights over the summer.

Airports across Europe are battling with a severe shortage of workers across all sectors, including ground handling, security staff and flight attendants. Many workers lost their jobs during the coronavirus crisis, but now that flying is possible again there are too few available workers to fill the vacancies. In recent weeks, worker strikes, the weather and an increase in the number of staff on sick leave have piled additional pressure on the airlines.

While airlines like Lufthansa are trying to minimise disruption by cancelling flights well in advance, passengers are still facing chaotic scenes at airports, with hours-long queues at check-in desks, security and passport control in places like Manchester, Barcelona and Amsterdam.
 

Camden

Member
Brexit going forward
When do companies ever blame themselves for anything?

So the Government of "alternative facts" is to be believed in it's deflection and whataboutism from itself and it's Brexit Deal ... blaming Global ? Over the professionals in the trade ? You blame and accusation on the Companies where is the facts you base that on ?

Also it wasn't only Companies but also the Recruitment Companies.. what ax are they grinding ? as they want the trade ...

Also at he Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy committee on the disruption, they called as witness the travel industry watchdog Journalist Simon Calder ... who also said

" witnesses pointed to Brexit as a factor that compounded the recruiting issues which have been blamed for causing the cancellations in April, May and into June.

Broadcaster Simon Calder said that about 30% of staff working in the UK aviation sector before the pandemic had been European Union nationals, and now workers were being sought from a “more limited pool”.

even Esb's link ... the other witness he cited Danny Brooks, founder and chief executive of Virtual Human Resources added "The problems are compounded by the fact that we have got Brexit in the mix,” he said.

From the linked article kindly supplied by esb1841 ..

So let me get this right the travel experts, recruitment , and companies are all wrong,? and to be blamed and the Tory Govt of "alternative facts" and sleaze is to be believed ??? only by the gullible IMHO ...
 
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So the Government of "alternative facts" is to be believed in it's deflection and whataboutism from itself and it's Brexit Deal ... blaming Global ? Over the professionals in the trade ? You blame on the Companies where is the facts you base that on ?

Also it wasn't only Companies but also the Recruitment Companies.. what ax are they grinding they want the trade ...

Also at the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy committee on the disruption called as witness the travel industry watchdog Journalist Simon Calder ... said

" witnesses pointed to Brexit as a factor that compounded the recruiting issues which have been blamed for causing the cancellations in April, May and into June.

Broadcaster Simon Calder said that about 30% of staff working in the UK aviation sector before the pandemic had been European Union nationals, and now workers were being sought from a “more limited pool”.

even Esb's link the other witness Danny Brooks, founder and chief executive of Virtual Human Resources added "The problems are compounded by the fact that we have got Brexit in the mix,” he said.

From the linked article kindly supplied by esb1841 ..

So let me get this right the travel experts, recruitment , and companies are all wrong,? and to be blamed and the Tory Govt of "alternative facts" and sleaze is to be believed ??? only by the gullible IMHO ...
What do you somehow think that the crisis at airports/flights isn’t global 😂
 

Camden

Member
Brexit going forward
What do you somehow think that the crisis at airports/flights isn’t global 😂
So repeat .... So let me get this right, the travel experts, recruitment comp , and Airline companies are all wrong in blaming Brexit ? and the Tory Govt of "alternative facts" and sleaze is to be believed in their deflection of blame from their Brexit agreement ??? 😂🤣
 

Chasey

Member
Brexit going forward
What do you somehow think that the crisis at airports/flights isn’t global 😂

Well there are no staff shortages in Turkey?

Point is we haven't got strike action causing problems with our flights anywhere except too and from said countries with strike action.

Our problem is specifically staff shortages which are exacerbated by Brexit. As the boss of Easy Jet said they had 8000 applicants but the vast majority had to be rejected

“We have had to turn down a huge number of EU nationals because of Brexit. Pre-pandemic we would have turned down 2-2.5 per cent because of nationality issues, now it’s 35-40 per cent.”
 

esb1841

Member
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Broadcaster Simon Calder said that about 30% of staff working in the UK aviation sector before the pandemic had been European Union nationals, and now workers were being sought from a “more limited pool”.

What he didn't say is how many of the European Nationals have returned back to their home countries and how many have remained in the UK and found alternative employment that is more stable higher salary and less stressful
 

Camden

Member
Brexit going forward
Broadcaster Simon Calder said that about 30% of staff working in the UK aviation sector before the pandemic had been European Union nationals, and now workers were being sought from a “more limited pool”.

What he didn't say is how many of the European Nationals have returned back to their home countries and how many have remained in the UK and found alternative employment that is more stable higher salary and less stressful

So what is that figure esb 1841 ?
 
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So repeat .... So let me get this right, the travel experts, recruitment comp , and Airline companies are all wrong in blaming Brexit ? and the Tory Govt of "alternative facts" and sleaze is to be believed in their deflection of blame from their Brexit agreement ??? 😂🤣
Businesses don’t blame themselves because it means the CEO & possibly the board get sent packing.
Why are airports across Europe cancelling flights, is that due to Brexit, the Tories or what?
 

esb1841

Member
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O'Leary stated
“There are hundreds of thousands of jobs in the UK that frankly British workers don’t want to do.
It looks like there are hundreds of thousands of jobs in Europe and the USA that Europeans and Americans don't want to do
 

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