Brexit going forward

[35pluschips]

The ‘farce over the vaccine’ was evident in 2016??

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Wriggle as you may you’ll never get out of that deep hole you’ve dug for yourself.

Or if you are aiming for the ‘Idiot of the Week’ award seems members can’t nominate themselves, sorry.

No, a farce from the EU has always been lying in wait somewhere down the line......to go with the previous ones.

 

[Jaycey]

No, a farce from the EU has always been lying in wait somewhere down the line......to go with the previous ones.

WTH ???

I can’t think of a single way in which Brexit will benefit the UK and it’s pretty obvious that you can’t either.

 

[35pluschips]

WTH ???

I can’t think of a single way in which Brexit will benefit the UK and it’s pretty obvious that you can’t either.

So you think the UK being a member of the EU, would’ve still put us in the position to vaccinate 18 million people here now?

 

[Chasey]

So you think the UK being a member of the EU, would’ve still put us in the position to vaccinate 18 million people here now?

Yes of course it would. It would have made two-thirds of three fifths of sod all difference. We were a sovereign nation inside the EU and there's no EU ruling covering vaccines? We signed the deal for 100 million doses the EU asked for 400 million a few months later. They are getting 160 million but there's a delay on the rest due to production issues.

Why do you think this would be any different if we were in the EU? we were not forced to sign up to the EU vaccination deal and we could have opted out and done EXACTLY as we are doing now.

There are many previous examples of this (shegan agreement for one) which prove this is just smoke and mirrors ohhhh the big bad EU order us around.

Please try to remember we hadn't actually left the EU at the point we refused to join the vaccination agreement

Seriously, the pro-Brexit Vaccination argument is about as solid as Trumps election fraud bulls#it

The laugh is of course we (in hindsight) made a great decision.

If the EU had ended up with a better result wed now be slagging of the govt for not joining in the EU plan.

Luck? Skill?

Make your own mind up

 

[Chasey]

I’ve moved on, I don’t need to put up an argument over the referendum result. My life hasn’t changed over the UK leaving the EU, has yours?

Yes it has

Considerably and for the worse not for the better

 

[35pluschips]

Yes of course it would. It would have made two-thirds of three fifths of sod all difference. We were a sovereign nation inside the EU and there's no EU ruling covering vaccines? We signed the deal for 100 million doses the EU asked for 400 million a few months later. They are getting 160 million but there's a delay on the rest due to production issues.

Why do you think this would be any different if we were in the EU? we were not forced to sign up to the EU vaccination deal and we could have opted out and done EXACTLY as we are doing now.

There are many previous examples of this (shegan agreement for one) which prove this is just smoke and mirrors ohhhh the big bad EU order us around.

Please try to remember we hadn't actually left the EU at the point we refused to join the vaccination agreement

Seriously, the pro-Brexit Vaccination argument is about as solid as Trumps election fraud bulls#it

The laugh is of course we (in hindsight) made a great decision.

If the EU had ended up with a better result wed now be slagging of the govt for not joining in the EU plan.

Luck? Skill?

Make your own mind up

Are you saying that if the UK was still the 28th member of the EU, it would’ve been OK for us to go and negotiate our own deals with pharmaceuticals?

 

[35pluschips]

Listen to what the EU President said regarding to member states going their own way.

 

[Jaycey]

Are you saying that if the UK was still the 28th member of the EU, it would’ve been OK for us to go and negotiate our own deals with pharmaceuticals?

As said seems the only reason you voted Brexit was because you foresaw the virus in 2014.

 

[35pluschips]

As said seems the only reason you voted Brexit was because you foresaw the virus in 2014.
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Where have I said that? It is though, a prime example of how the EU operates in a crisis.........The biggest crisis to hit Europe & the EU were left wanting & their citizens are still left waiting. I have two friends in Spain in their mid 70s & they still haven't been vaccinated, surely you might consider that Spain could've/ would've been somewhat quicker on their own rather than being tied to the EUs disaster.

 

[Jaycey]

It's the only 'reason' you have given - are there others that affected your referendum vote?

Give us a list of any Brexit advantages that have benefited the UK to justify the cost of some GBP 130 Bn.

 

[yalimart]

Great to see the IOM looking after its fisher folk

Isle of Man jettisons itself from UK to secure fishing agreement with EU

The London Economic | In 2019 Boris Johnson used Isle of Man kippers to claim the EU was behind 'pointless and damaging' red tape | News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

And the other good news is there should be some bargain holiday homes to buy in the Brexit voting Cornish fishing villages.

Shellfish workers fear losing their homes following export bans

The London Economic | "This month, people have managed to pay their mortgage, this next month coming they won't be able to…" |

www.thelondoneconomic.com

They knew exactly what they were voting for.

 

[35pluschips]

It's the only 'reason' you have given - are there others that affected your referendum vote?

Give us a list of any Brexit advantages that have benefited the UK to justify the cost of some GBP 130 Bn.

Jaycey you don’t even merit a list on anything. We produce a vaccine, you produce begging bowls.
As said, my life hasn’t changed one bit since leaving the EU.
You only come on this thread because there’s JS of any good to say about your host country.

 

[Jaycey]

Jaycey you don’t even merit a list on anything. We produce a vaccine, you produce begging bowls.
As said, my life hasn’t changed one bit since leaving the EU.
You only come on this thread because there’s JS of any good to say about your host country.

So no answers, just the usual off topic diversion to a country that you know FA about.

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[35pluschips]

So no answers, just the usual off topic diversion to a country that you know FA about.

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Correct.

 

[Sha Hoorsur]

I find it endlessly amusing that the main protagonists on this forum who have made it their mission to slag off the UK at every opportunity, live in countries that are considerably worse off than we are. The Ukraine for instance, their infrastructure is still firmly lodged in the 1940s, their government is so bogged down in it’s own red tape it is virtually impossible to get anything done. Nobody empties the bins or maintains the public buildings, the place is internationally known for being a drab post- Soviet dump. Then we have Turkey, a country that is failing democracy at almost every level, why even on this very forum, those who live there must choose their words with care lest they get a “knock on the door”. A country where political opponents and journalists face arrest and imprisonment for a carelessly expressed opinion. In both these countries their economy can hardly be described as “flourishing” Agreed, the UK isn’t perfect, and there’s undoubtedly scope for improvement, but there are worse places to live besides here. Perhaps the detractors would be better employed criticizing their own adopted countries.

 

[Jaycey]

OMG, another Brexiter that contributes nix to topic and tries to divert to a country he knows nothing about rather than to enumerate the advantages of Brexit to the UK.

And I haven’t seen any member ‘slagging off’ the UK – only Brexit, any links perhaps?

Any chance you might get back to topic and enlighten us of your perceived advantages for UK ???

 

[Sha Hoorsur]

UK is still better off than the Ukrain though, isn't it?

 

[35pluschips]

UK is still better off than the Ukrain though, isn't it?

That’s a tough one Sha, he might need to ask the audience lol

 

[Jaycey]

UK is still better off than the Ukrain though, isn't it?

As you can offer neither Brexit benefits nor links to alleged member's denigration of the UK you persist in your transparent diversion.

And your ignorance is further underlined when you speak of ‘the Ukrain’, there is no such country but if you wish to ‘slag off’ my host country there is an appropriate thread - this is not it.

 

[Jaycey]

That’s a tough one Sha, he might need to ask the audience lol

Another senseless 'contribution' to topic - if you've nowt to say then say nowt.

Some live & learn, some don't.