khris

Member
break in in apartment
hello all, I wonder if anyone can help, please?

we have discovered that our apartment has had the locks changed and is using it for storage.

clearly we want to rectify this matter asap. but there are a number of variables.

we would be very grateful indeed for advice.

this is a flat that was advertised for sale once by a certain well known estate agents in dalaman with no instruction or even contact from us.

beyond belief in both cases.

many thanks in advance
 

IbrahimAbi

Grey wisdom
break in in apartment
If you have the title deed I would go to the police and see if they will come with you while you break in, then change the locks again. Get the new locks and tools before you go.
 

jearden

Member
break in in apartment
My first port of call would be to the council for a latest copy of the Tapu. Properties have been known to change hands without the owners knowledge for a variety of reasons, the most obvious being dodgy POA's and recovery of debts through the courts.
 

khris

Member
break in in apartment
hello,

once again, thanks to anyone who took an interest in our predicament regarding the break-in to our apartment. and the storing of items therein.

therefore I fell it incumbent on me to update you, not that you will be lying awake at night thinking about it, obviously.

my partner went out there, having re-booked with Turkish airlines because Thomas Cook went bust two days before she was due to leave, and the issue had been that we hadn't paid service charges for a couple of years. this is simply because, despite requests, we hadn't been given bank details as to whom to pay.

therefore, the [English] person got the hump, and decided to use it as a storage/pet space. they hadn't changed the locks; in fact, the same estate agent, not unknown to people on this forum, who had put the apartment up for sale without our knowledge or instruction, had given this character the key without our permission. the estate agent have our email address, so all they had to do was to email us and the matter could have been cleared up in 20 minutes.

so at least I know one estate agent I wouldn't touch with a bargepole. now I need to find a decent one!

all advice welcome and kind regards
 

IbrahimAbi

Grey wisdom
break in in apartment
If someone has lost an email address then why not send a PM through TLF if both are members?
 

Bramidan

Member
break in in apartment
Just to be clear do you mean an estate agent to sell your property or somebody to manage it on your behalf?
 

35pluschips

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break in in apartment
Hard to sort of grasp the whole of the story but one thing I would say to everyone...…..never leave your keys with an estate agent. I wouldn't even to that here in the UK, never mind Turkey.
Can we take it as a given that you're the named Tapu holder? If that be the case & you owe fees, pay them and that should be end of...…….then if I were you, I would change the locks.
 
break in in apartment
hello,

once again, thanks to anyone who took an interest in our predicament regarding the break-in to our apartment. and the storing of items therein.

therefore I fell it incumbent on me to update you, not that you will be lying awake at night thinking about it, obviously.

my partner went out there, having re-booked with Turkish airlines because Thomas Cook went bust two days before she was due to leave, and the issue had been that we hadn't paid service charges for a couple of years. this is simply because, despite requests, we hadn't been given bank details as to whom to pay.

therefore, the [English] person got the hump, and decided to use it as a storage/pet space. they hadn't changed the locks; in fact, the same estate agent, not unknown to people on this forum, who had put the apartment up for sale without our knowledge or instruction, had given this character the key without our permission. the estate agent have our email address, so all they had to do was to email us and the matter could have been cleared up in 20 minutes.

so at least I know one estate agent I wouldn't touch with a bargepole. now I need to find a decent one!

all advice welcome and kind regards

Phew. Had me worried there. Thx for explaining the reasons behind the (attempted) repossession of your abode.
 

khris

Member
break in in apartment
hello all,

to Saoirse, in principle you are right but it is incumbent upon whoever is running the show to give the right details. after an hour and a half trying to pay the [relatively small, let's face it] fees we gave up as the correct numbers, it would appear, were not provided. so we are back to square one.

that said, storing a load of stuff in the apartment without permission, including letting a dog in who has soiled the apartment, has cost us much more money to sort out, including redecoration, than the maintenance fees were. so in my view, it is taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

all the best
 

Bramidan

Member
break in in apartment
I know this probably does not help but as a lesson it shows what happens when there is a distinct lack of communication.
Figures not understandable so one party,whilst acknowledging the debt, does nothing.
Other side gets annoyed at the "snub" and takes action to teach them a lesson!

On a more helpful note, as the original cause of the problem is still not resolved, perhaps it might be advisable for Kris to make a payment, based on what he or she believes is a reasonable sum and then continue discussions to get to the actual amount that is owed.
Would this prevent the other party being able to take the measures they used in the first place?
 

Harem

I've cliqued
break in in apartment
Bramidan think it wasn't the amount to be paid but the bank details of where to pay it.
 

Dalaman Deli

Loving Life in Turkey!
break in in apartment
I have sent Khris an PM as I do not have his email address but assume he has not picked it up.

As we are implicated in this, in all but name, I just wish to clarify a point, so am copying part of the PM here:

You wrote to me at the time the 'for sale' notices went up in your unfurnished apartment (around 3 yaers ago?) and I explained that it must have been a misunderstanding between yourselves and an associate of ours. You met with him and, as far as I could ascertain, gave him a set of apartment keys and even discussed a possible advertising price. This led to him putting up the adverts in your apartment windows somewhat prematurely as, at that point we had not completed the paperwork with you. This was our mistake.

This caused you some obvious distress and I wrote back to you to apologise unreservedly for the misunderstanding and immediately removed the signs. As I explained at the time, we have no interest in advertising property that is not for sale. It makes no business sense. What do we do if someone then contacts us and wants to buy? Why would we embarrass ourselves by saying 'well, mmm, oh actually it is not for sale'.

You requested the keys to be given to someone at your complex, with which we complied and, as far as I was concerned, that was the end of this unfortunate incident. (At some point after that I deleted your email address as I assumed I would no longer need it.) The last apartment we sold in your complex was in May 2016 and we have not been there since, so suggest you call the Police to deal with any incident where your apartment had been accessed without your permission. You also need to contact your site management to discuss the payment of any outstanding fees.

Just for future reference, the associate you dealt over the unauthorised advertising stopped working with us well over two years ago and now runs his own agency in Dalaman.

So, Khris, I am sorry to have caused so much distress over the advert but, if you wish to contact me, you can do so via this forum.
 
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Bramidan

Member
break in in apartment
Bramidan think it wasn't the amount to be paid but the bank details of where to pay it.

That was what was said originally but not what Kris has said in his last post, number 12.

Did you not read that? When he says the correct numbers were not given I assumed he was talking about "amounts" not account numbers.

Just demonstrates what happens with poor communication!
Two people read the same message and make different interpretations.

In view of the post from the agent, I'm not sure about the circumstances here so am taking no further part in this discussion.
 
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