Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
OK so having decided to spend most of the year in turkey we looked to buy a car. I wanted a 7 seater so went Skoda Kodiaq 2.0 diesel following great reviews.

The problem was it cost about £35K in the UK and £100K in Turkey?????

So we bought one in the UK and drove here (which was easy)

SO I booked UK insurance via LV and they did a max six-month green card which covered Turkey, so all good July 18th through to Jan 18th

Driving a right-hand car in a LHD country is a nonissue. I can't understand why anyone would worry about it. OK it makes it harder to overtake but that's about it.

SO 1st issue: Lings the registered keeper of the car and she needs to fly out on business.

When you enter the country with a car you passport is stamped as such so in order to leave the country without the car you need to go to the customs office and inform them

Our situation is a little odd as I am staying here and still driving it? We weren't sure if this was a problem

So we went to the customs office

First off we got a fine and a telling-off for not informing them we had a car in Turkey within 3 months of arriving???? Apparently, the fact we drove here and went through border control who took all our details is not enough???

350tl fine

Strangely, they were not at all bothered about us flying in and out of Turkey and leaving the car here, which was nice

Equally strangely we have to go back with proof of new insurance on the 18th January. Perfectly understandable. However, they advised getting temporary insurance till July at which point our Ikamet will be renewed. Then we can get another 12 months' insurance and (and hears the shocker) we can register the car to stay for another two years???????

Now, this is a shocker as I was under the impression we could only keep the car here for 2 years, then we had to leave turkey with the car for six months. During which time neither we or the car could re-enter turkey??? Then we could drive back for another two years.

IF what we were told is true, and it's a BIG IF, this seems wrong (got to admit it a stupid system with no obvious benefit, so I am not surprised) It would appear, as long as we have an Ikamet and insurance, the car can stay.

Now you'd think this would be easy to confirm online with a bit of research, but it just isn't. In fact online research suggested we could only keep a car in Turkey for two years if we were classified as "nonresident" which meant we had to be out of Turkey for a minimum of 6 months in any given 12 month period???? Madness. In short, the information was totally misleading inaccurate and unhelpful. For example, it never said we needed to register with customs within 3 months

So we are going all crash test dummy on this.

I'll keep you all updated if there's any new stuff. The next challenge is Fully Comp insurance in Turkey for the period Jan to July.
 

enoch

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I understand if you are not retired the car goes into compound and if you take it out it stays out, but doc Martin will know.
 

esb1841

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.

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IbrahimAbi

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I am fairly sure that you will not get fully comp insurance for a foreign car in Turkey.
 

Chasey

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I have read all this previously in my attempts to understand the issues, but it's still confusing

For example, the 2 year deal is only on offer to non residents

To qualify as a non resident you must be out of turkey for a period of 6 months in the year

But the car can be in turkey for 2 years?

So does this mean in order to use the system I have to be out of Turkey for six months EVERY year? So in effect, the car can stay 2 years, but I can only stay 1?

Totally mad

We are hoping w can stay two years with short breaks home (4 months July Aug Nov December) and then in two years' time we drive out and stay out for six months, then drive back for another two years.

This seems to be possible but it defo not clear.
 

esb1841

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
What you want to do I don't think it is possible as you would be in Turkey for approx 240 days of the year which would class you as a resident of Turkey.
Also if you not aware if you drive in turkey for more than 6 months you need to exchange your UK driving license for a Turkish Driving license
And if you car is outside of the UK for more than 12 months you need to advise the DVLA

For 12 months or more​

You must tell DVLA if you’re taking your vehicle out of the UK, including to the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey), Isle of Man or Ireland, for 12 months or more.
This is known as permanent export. You’ll need to:
  1. Fill in the ‘permanent export’ section of your vehicle log book (V5C) and detach it from the log book.
I must admit I don't know how you would obtain UK car insurance once the DVLA has removed your car from their database

 
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Kanga

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
Importing into the UK is a similar dog's breakfast. A client had the idea of importing 2nd hand Mercs from Africa (I know but he's a bloke) and we looked into the technicalities. . . my advice to him was 'forget it'.
 

Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
Strangely I imported an MR2 Turbo into the UK and it was pretty straightforward in 1996? I saved a chunk over the UK price and all I had to do was get the lights sorted out including the fitting of a fog light. Fortunately, the J spec cars were already fitted with fog lights.
 

yalimart

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I have no idea of the rules however to do what you are doing, been told is quite legit would be an easy way to avoid import duties, surprised that it is so easy
 

REDDERS

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I've been in the UK ,so just seen this. As an RP holder you can keep the car here for a maximum of 2 years. Then it must be removed from Turkey.The owner can return by return flight if they wish,but not with the car. But again,the car & registered owner must be out of Turkey for at least 6 months [in the previous 12] before returning with the car. If they wish to make a semi import registration then the car can be put onto Turkish'M' plates & treated as a Turrkish car regarding road tax,insurance & TUV test.,but to do that an application needs to be made to Turk Touring Club & a financial bond from the owner is held by them.
 

Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I have no idea of the rules however to do what you are doing, been told is quite legit would be an easy way to avoid import duties, surprised that it is so easy


I am not saying its easy, it's a bit of a mine field and we are finding out the facts as we go along.

And remember the car is not an import. Only family can drive it & I cant sell it in Turkey

Import duty is neither here nor there. You can pay a bond and have this returned when you leave the country, but I didn't have a spare 30k knocking about.

Also if id paid a bond when I got my residency at an exchange rate of 8.4 If I got the bond back now it would be worth 40% less than when I paid it in. There's no interest paid on the bond

Max age for importing a car on a bond is 3 years old so the bond value will always be significant

My Skoda Kodiaq was 35K in the UK. Its 100K+ here, so the bond would be a percentage of the 65K difference.

Long-term car hire is the cheaper option, but that gets me a low spec Renault Cleo not a 7 seater 4X4, The kids normally come out together with their partners, so that's six of us.

Also, the point of driving here was to bring a load of personal stuff over, so that was another advantage as was the fact if there's a covid issue with flights, we have a way home.

IF the two-year experiment goes OK we may do the 6 months hard time then do it again

If not, then likely we will bite the bullet and buy something out here

Test 1: how hard is it to drive here? Answer, easy

We are now on to Test 2, how hard is it to keep it here.
 

Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
My advise having tried most of these options over the years is save yourself all the grief and buy a car locally.
But I haven't got £100,000 spare :(

Joking aside name a cheap 7 seater 4X4 in Turkey?

Have to be honest, if the system works the way its supposed to work, I don't really see it as grief? OK staying out for six months is suboptimal, but not the end of the world. I reckon June July Aug September in the UK. December for Christmas then travel in January like go to Oz for a month
 

SLEEPY

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.

To be honest I have no idea about the cost of 7 seaters, but I wonder do you need it all year round ..or would a regular motor suffice and rent a 7 when required.
As you see from my orginal reply several seasoned Turkey veteran's agreed with my view...your not the first to look for alternatives around the system ...but in the end we all bought local.
Good luck.
 

yalimart

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
I had a friend who drove his tatty Escort Encore to Kos in the 1990s, I know the model as he asked me to source him a wheel trim as he lost one en route, he was aware of the rules of the day which involved removing the vehicle every so often to avoid local taxes, however a local official gave him a work around which he went with, eventually the local officials bosses boss got involved, the local tax that was demanded was £2200 the car being worth no more than £500 back in the UK, it was pay or lose it, he paid.
 

IbrahimAbi

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.

To be honest I have no idea about the cost of 7 seaters, but I wonder do you need it all year round ..or would a regular motor suffice and rent a 7 when required.
As you see from my orginal reply several seasoned Turkey veteran's agreed with my view...your not the first to look for alternatives around the system ...but in the end we all bought local.
Good luck.
Or instead of renting a 7 seater, simply rent a second car. Much cheaper all round. How many days a year will you need a 7 seater? Does not sound logical to me.
 
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esb1841

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
Similar Rules apply for bringing car to the UK

Temporary imports​

You can usually use a vehicle with foreign number plates without registering or taxing it in the UK if all of the following apply:
  • you’re visiting and do not plan to live here
  • the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country
  • you only use the vehicle for up to 6 months in total - this can be a single visit, or several shorter visits over 12 months
  • If you become a resident or stay for longer than 6 months you must register and tax your vehicle in the UK – follow the steps for importing a vehicle.
  • Importing vehicles into the UK
 

Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.

To be honest I have no idea about the cost of 7 seaters, but I wonder do you need it all year round ..or would a regular motor suffice and rent a 7 when required.
As you see from my orginal reply several seasoned Turkey veteran's agreed with my view...your not the first to look for alternatives around the system ...but in the end we all bought local.
Good luck.


True in the past, but hasn't the system changed?

Car wise the 7 seat is an add-on to key functions like load capacity towing ability and off road ability. Which are things we use all year round in Turkey. Also, I feel less likely to break an SUV on the roads around here.

7 seaters + ACTUAL 4X4 cars (not ones that look like 4X4s but are really front-wheel drive estate cars which give 4X4s a bad name when seen stranded in light snow :) ) I found Hyundai Santa Fe and the Skoda to be the cheapest both around £100,000 equivalent. (there's a Seat but its just a Skoda copy and not as good and there's no local dealer)

The purpose of this thread is to see if the new system is workable or as you say, its time to give up
 

Chasey

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A UK Car in Turkey, the story so far.
Or instead of renting a 7 seater, simply rent a second car. Much cheaper all round. How many days a year will you need a 7 seater? Does not sound logical to me.

Quite so but instead we rented a minibus in the past and its been costing around £650 a week. When the family is out we tend to go exploring, Olympus beech, Pumakulli, Cappadocia, Kas etc etc two cars is a PITA and misses out on the banter on the trips. Neither of my young kids is happy driving in Turkey and my dads 86. If you think I am letting my 22 year old and 24 year old daughters boyfriends drive in Turkey your very wrong. Rheas doesn't drive at all and James drives occasionally but very little as they live in Chelsea so don't really use a car
 

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